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http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994745

Given that 95% of these computers were probably running Windows, is anyone
else surprised that the rate was that low?

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On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:06:10PM +1300, os2@www.com wrote:
Worm and virus programs are the only class of software available for
micros~1 platforms that have ever shown any improvement.

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micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of *Unix* or GNU.

"Mark Allen Adams, Jr." wrote:

Some of the comp. support forums I go to now seem to have around 25% of posts
related to to spyware/malware/virus's. Looks like its a growing industry in
the MS Windows world.

Mark
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sense to everything it touches," - Steve Ballmer

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:52:12 GMT, Mark Allen Adams, Jr. <dev@null.com> wrote:
I'm currently sitting out the economic depression working at a computer store
doing PC repair. Maybe one machine in twenty *doesn't* have at least one piece
of spyware installed. Most have two or three and about one in twenty will have
10-15 nasties and perhaps 50 more -- people who can't pass up a piece of
online software without trying it out.

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os2@www.com <os2@www.com> espoused:
I think most people accept that security problems are significant in the
Windows world, however, as so few really understand how exploits work,
and how the Windows design and approach to security effectively aids the
success of those exploits, equally few folk recognise that the Windows
security situation is only likely to get worse rather than better.

MS have made some marketing moves to try to ameliorate this, but as
has been commented on many times, this isn't something MS will be able
to market themselves out of. Their efforts to force governments into
adopting horrific penalties for computer-related crime have not been
particularly successful (thankfully), with recent court cases taking
into account a resonable view of actual damage done rather than the
knee-jerk 'string-em-up' approach MS would like as a deterrent to
upcoming script-kiddies.

There's an interesting article on newsforge on current script-kiddie
culture. Although it draws some odd-seeming conclusions about the
patriotism/ nationalism of script-kiddies, with no evidence to support
them, the rest is good..

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flatfish@linuxmail.org wrote:

Set up the sis-in-laws new PC a few months ago. Was on the "net" long enough to
download Kario, AVG, Mozilla and Adaware etc. 1.5 hrs and "bingo" your a winner!!
lol.

Mark
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sense to everything it touches," - Steve Ballmer

On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:47:34AM +0000, Martha H Adams wrote:
I guess it doesn't matter much, because once you connect a windows box
to any network, it's never the same again.

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micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of *Unix* or GNU.

I've seen comments up this thread about machines connected to the
internet quickly acquiring spyware. But nobody has yet asked, what's
in Microsoft's software as it sits on your table, freshly purchased
and as yet unopened. (*Your* table -- not mine!)

Cheers -- Martha Adams

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Oy! Listen to alt's latest shpiel!

Yes.

It would also evaluate to "true" if you'd said "and".

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os2@www.com wrote:
Keeps me gainfully employed delousing them... I'd lose a lot of work
if microsoft were to get their act together and make the software really
clueless user proof... instead of letting any and everything crawl into
the machine...

On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 07:00:04AM +0000, alt wrote:
rofl! Good one.

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Oy! Listen to paul cooke's latest shpiel!

And as the variety of ways Windows can fsck itself and its user over
approaches ∞, it's work you can never get bored with! You may have found
the perfect job, and don't even have to move to India, allowing you to stay
far away from that Aftab guy!

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winxp IS spyware.