http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable

(for the browser-challenged)

http://spod.cx/s?405

'The worm, called "Mydoom" or "Novarg" by antivirus companies,
usually appears to be an e-mail error message. A small file is
attached that, when launched on computers running Microsoft Corp.'s
Windows operating systems, can send out 100 infected e-mail messages
in 30 seconds to e-mail addresses stored in the computer's address
book and other documents.'

'The attack was first noticed Monday afternoon. Within hours,
thousands of e-mails were clogging networks, said Vincent Gullotto,
vice president of Network Associates' antivirus emergency response
team.'

'Besides sending out e-mail, the program appears to open up a
backdoor so that hackers can take over the computer later.'

'"As far as I can tell right now, it's pretty much everywhere on the
planet," Gullotto said.'

I wondered today why I was downloading 50 emails at a time and only
5-20 were getting delivered (the others are rapidly filling /dev/null).

Now we have 2 biggies this past week. Maybe MICROS~1 is heading for a
new record. The last one has held since August.

http://www.acm.org/~hlb/col-edit/dig.../dv_12-03.html

What was the damage estimate for all of last year? Well, it was more
than the amount MICROS~1 stol^H^H^H^Hmade from their "customers" (aka
"marks") all of last year:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20...8_132921.shtml

Yet the hit-pieces continue to roll in, yipping and yapping about how
linux is going to suffer just as much as $CRAP, 'just as soon as the
kiddies focus on it.' 'Any day now it's gonna start,' say the minions.
'Just as soon as people notice it,' they claim. 'Any minute now,' howl
the paid shills. 'Just you wait and see.' 'Be careful cuz they're right
around the corner.'

Right!

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paul cooke wrote:

Didn't the RIAA try to get it legalized to crack the computers of
suspected offenders?

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On 2004-01-27, Peter Jensen <usenet@pekajemaps.homeip.net> blubbered:
This is their first one, then. Proudly sponsored by:

Planet Earth's Monopoly(tm)
MICROS~1

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paragraph 12.

On 2004-01-27, paul cooke <paul_cooke@linux_NO_SPAM_mail.org> blubbered:
Might be a collaborative effort. $MONOPOLY needed a new scare tactic so
they can roll out 'The Solution' in awhile, in the form of renting the
software via the internet. It would also give the RIAA the opening they
wanted into people's machines so they can spy.

It would have the added bonuses of making linux users look evil, and
taking some public attention away from the fact that SCO *STILL* hasn't
produced one shred of evidence to support any of their speciaous
claims, including the implied one of Darl being a living being vs. an
embedded WWinders-running robot in need of a reboot to clean out the
cruft.

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Or it was a Linux "hacker" mad at SCO.



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On 2004-01-27, Mark mm <markmm1975@hotmail.com> blubbered:
Solid bunch of evidence you have there. Have you worked for SCO very
long?

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In article <slrnc1cndl.38a.sm@home.harry.net>, sm@sm.biz says...
answer is correct. If Microsoft wanted to get rid of Linux and was
willing to do it illegally, it wouldn't mess about with viruses to SCO.
Linux would have been gone years ago like most OS's that compete with
it. However due to Antitrust etc it can't.

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Mark mm wrote:

Quite unlikely. I think most of those just sit back and watch SCO destroying
itself. Most reasonable explanation is that it comes from SCO themselves
(they need another distraction rather badly) or some windows using punk

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On 2004-01-27, Mark mm <markmm1975@hotmail.com> blubbered:
Good. Your evidence is just as good as mine, then:

SCO created a means to DDOS themselves to play the victim publicly
and to distract people from demanding they pony-up on the evidence
they're supposed to produce. They've done this in collusion with
$MONOPOLY so the latter won't have their fingerprints all over it.
Since SCO will vanish eventually due to the sham they started, Darl
& Co. get an extra bonus from His Billness and his main squeeze,
Blammer, to be the fall-guys in order for the criminal element at
MICROS~1 to maintain their claim to sainthood while still publicly
attempting to tar linux and her users.

Since my "theory" was advanced after yours, mine wins by being fresher.

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In article <slrnc1cq35.94l.sm@home.harry.net>, sm@sm.biz says...
Windows look less secure (if possible), and giving users another reason
to look elsewhere? A risky ploy by MS indeed!.

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Mark mm wrote:

That's not the reason. The reason they can't use steamroller tactics on
Linux is that there's no central company that can be bought out or
bankrupted. As long as Linux is wanted, it's there. The only way of
killing Linux would be to make it unpopular. Blaming the virus issue on
Linux hackers will do just that. If the lies are believed, that is.

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Mark mm <markmm1975@hotmail.com> wrote:
Even without antitrust, how would you envision microsoft could've killed
linux? Even if it bought up redhat and suse 5 years ago, that would've just
made room for someone else to become a big player. They could continue
buying up every distribution that made an impact till the cows came home,
but all they'd be doing would be injecting money into the linux community.

Subject: Re: Surprise - A(nother) Virus Makes the Rounds
From: Mark mm <markmm1975@hotmail.com>

In article <40166bc0$0$29394$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> , you say...
Maybe if they stopped all Windows machines from supporting Linux over
the web. I.e. IE wouldnt get pages from non IIS web servers, and IIS web
servers would not respond to non Windows running web browsers. it would
split the web and given the popularity of windows businesses would only
support Windows. Too late to do this now though and probably would have
given them to much power over the net.

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So anyway, it was like, 14:56 CET Jan 27 2004, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Mark mm was all like, "Dude,

[how ms would kill linux]

I think a move like that would rather have alienated ms from every
single important organisation with either a live web server or a web
server product, and not affected the linux community in particular.

Or perhaps more likely, software would have been modified (as it
already is today, in fact, see "user-agent spoofing") to lie to
microsoft products in order to be able to interact despite such
a mad scheme.

Either way it wouldn't have worked, except badly.

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generate clicks-and-mortar models

Mark mm <markmm1975@hotmail.com> writes:

More reason for windows users to clamor for "trusted computing". :-|

Mark mm wrote:

How, exactly, do you suppose this was to be implemented? Linux browsers
already regularly lie about their nature, in order to bypass brain dead
coding. There's no reason why a web server couldn't do the same.

Anyway, they never had the impact required to make this work in the
first place.

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The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up
in the morning, and does not stop until you get to school.

Mark mm wrote:

If people didn't switch because of the last 65000 viruses, why should
they now? People are sheep. They use what comes with their computer,
and that's that. Security is of no concern to most of these people.
Ask them if they've upgraded their virus definitions and installed a
firewall, and they'll look at you as if you just asked them if they
refloozled their hosenblobbets with tinklewikkets.

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"Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love."
-- Albert Einstein

Mark mm wrote:


You know, I keep asking the question: At this point, what type of person
would want to work for a criminal organization such as MiSCOsoft? I
mean, most /techies/ are people who want to /save the world/ with
computers, or at least, do *really cool stuff* with technology. Since
all M$ does at this point is release crap and try to stifle innovation,
how could any reasonably good technology work there and hold his/her
head high ? And if not, then what quality of people work for Microsoft
at this point? Certainly not the *Best and the Brightest* . I mean,
when I see a project like Co-Linux, I say, my god, those must be _dam_
good programmers to create a Linux that can piggyback on DOS device
drivers. But in the last five years, or maybe even ten, there has been
no product from Microsoft that makes me sit back and say /wow, how did
they do that/ . Even c#/.NET -- which I appreciate -- but I mean --
it's *java* . There's no arguing -- it's just a java clone and java
has been around for what? Seven years now? And java has gotten really
, really good and I really liked the Sun Tech Days conference. But I
look at what MiSCOsoft is doing, and basically -- it's just really _boring_



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Peter Jensen wrote:

Stop posting your sick fantasies in COLA, perv.


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Mark mm wrote:

No. Wintendo users are already very used to viruses. There are already not
just the new virus of the month, but now they come weekly. So MS would have
lost nothing, since everyone knows that windows will get infected no matter
what
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