Hi T.J. , You say :
" If two sides slow down trade they both slow down ...
Its a trade world . "

And what's wrong with that ?

I have no problem with a lower GDP ,
In fact that would probably be a good idea .

But you lose the roof over your head when you lose your job !!

The problem with today's economy is
the huge loss of tech and manufacturing jobs ...
To hell with the GDP numbers !

The U.S. has a very nasty habit of
exporting it's jobs and it's pollution .
This is a public policy issue .

Also T.J. ,
You were born into an empire ,
and you spent years developing your trading skills .

You don't realize how much time and effort it would take
for a life long programmer like my self
to develop your skills .

You use the _ Phone _ to call buyers ...
millions of buyers that you've known for decades ...
And these buyers can tell that you really know the business .

Not being able to relate to programmer types like myself ,
you think I can just hop on the internet ,
spam the hell out of people and then get instantly rich .

It's just not true .

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:58:28 -0800, Jeff Relf wrote:

finally, you speak truth.

and those who think it's a democracy,
spend much time gnashing teeth.

those who accept what is reality
(whether they desire to change it
or not) are the healthy once.

there is a hierarchy,
there is command and control,
there are robots and slaves
and hangers ons and leaders
and classes and all the rest.

it's right there before our eyes,
yet the words of the intelligensia
are 'equality', 'liberty'

fools.