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Teoma Search Makes Google Its Bitch
Posted by jbailo on November 1st, 2003



http://www.teoma.com

All of Bill's paid Ph.ds at
Microsoft 'Research' couldn't
invent a search engine as great
as teoma. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. What
a joke -- now he decides to
by Google -- a BOOLEAN search
engine -- Boolean search, the
most brain dead strategy in all
of Computer Science. What's next?
Wood-burning computers?

http://www.teoma.com/


Posted by Carl Farrington on November 2nd, 2003


jbailo wrote:
They want $30 to submit a site, and it's part of the Ask Jeeves
waste-of-time.

for a minute I thought it might be worthwhile.. just these two facts have
severely put me off.



Posted by jbailo on November 2nd, 2003


poster->"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net>

Well, to be honest, I've never thought
much of Ask Jeeves - BUT - the last
time I used it was like, pre-Internet bust.

I noticed that they were still alive
a few months ago AND that their stock
was being picked by several analysts so
that caught my eye.

However, with Teoma -- you should really
try it -- I tried it last night and
have made it my primary search page (although
I'm still trying to figure out how to
add it to the search page options on
the right hand drop down of Firebird (!) )

Anyway, it seems to use CBR of some type,
( case based reasoning ) or pattern matching
after the initial Boolean search. If you
click on the About link at the bottom you
may find the article about their technology
quite interesting.

Also, the page graphics are very hip.

As to the $30 per site -- mmm...well not much
is it?

But ok, the one thing that would bother
me is:

Google runs on RedHat clusters - which is
why they were my favorite search company.

I don't know what OS/platform Teoma runs on.
I hope its Linux or Unix - and I'm going to
try and find out...




Posted by jbailo on November 2nd, 2003


poster->"jbailo" <jabailo@earthlink.net>

Ok -- I'm sold on Teoma.

I have been trying for two weeks to
figure out how to boost the sound
level of my card ( legacy 8-bit
SB Pro chipset, eSound driver ) which
is clear on Ogg, but much lower than when
playing a CD rom. I searched for hours
on Goggle and found nothing.

I just did a quick search on teoma
and found it on the 2nd hit!

( run aumix )

I still need to find out what platform
Teoma runs on.



Posted by Daniel Rudy on November 3rd, 2003


Somewhere around the time of 11/01/2003 17:55, the world stopped and
listened as jbailo contributed this to humanity:

And NetCraft says:

Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.

Bork!

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Posted by Andy Baxter on November 3rd, 2003


At earth time Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:00:14 +0000, the following transmission
was received from the entity known as jbailo:

# nmap -O www.teoma.com

Starting nmap 3.27 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2003-11-03 14:50 GMT
Interesting ports on dh.wc.ask.com (65.214.39.8):
(The 1618 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
Port State Service
22/tcp closed ssh
25/tcp open smtp
53/tcp closed domain
80/tcp open http
443/tcp closed https
Remote OS guesses: Linux 2.1.19 - 2.2.20, Linux 2.2.14
Uptime 269.980 days (since Thu Feb 6 15:22:31 2003)

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 184.452 seconds


It is only a guess from TCP/IP fingerprinting though.

andy.

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Posted by Franoculator on November 3rd, 2003


Andy Baxter spilled his alphabet soup on the floor,
and the letters spelled:
Now that would mean that netcraft is dead wrong.

Is that possibe?!?

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Posted by Andy Baxter on November 3rd, 2003


At earth time Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:41:13 +0000, the following transmission
was received from the entity known as Franoculator:

I don't know enough about how either of them work to comment.

andy.

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Posted by Johan Lindquist on November 3rd, 2003


On 2003-11-03, gazing longingly at the horizon,
Franoculator <matt@morpheus.franoculator.com>
felt a deep, passionate desire to let the following be known:
[snippety]

It would mean that the traffic coming out on port 80 might not be
originating at the same host that lives at 65.214.39.8.

Even disregarding proxies and the likes, it's entirely possible to lie
to netcraft in all sorts of creative ways.

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Posted by Roy Culley on November 3rd, 2003


begin <tGupb.2$jt.0@okepread05>,
Franoculator <matt@morpheus.franoculator.com> writes:
lynx -head http://www.teoma.com

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:22:04 GMT

nslookup www.teoma.com
www.teoma.com canonical name = teoma.ask.com.
Name: teoma.ask.com
Address: 65.214.39.8

nslookup 65.214.39.8
Non-authoritative answer:
8.39.214.65.in-addr.arpa name = dh.wc.ask.com.

lynx -head http://dh.wc.ask.com

HTTP/1.0 503 Service Unavailable
Server: Squid/2.4.STABLE7
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:24:23 GMT

So there is a squid proxy no doubt running Linux protecting yet
another IIS Windows box. People are learning. :-)

Posted by john bailo on November 3rd, 2003


Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:26:12 +0100, Roy Culley,
<46ci71-6jk.ln1@gentoo.linux.src>

of course, all that means is the
form that does a post to the backend
application is IIS.

it doesn't tell us what Teoma search engine
itself runs on ( or is written in).







Posted by Daniel Rudy on November 5th, 2003


Somewhere around the time of 11/03/2003 08:02, the world stopped and
listened as Johan Lindquist contributed this to humanity:
Which would mean that Teoma is using a Linux firewall for a Win2K web
server.

Yeah, like doing www.walmart.com yeilds:

The site www.walmart.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Solaris 8.


It seems to me that Netcraft looks at the signature of webpages. So it
is getting the signature of the webserver verses nmap which is actually
hitting what appears to be a firewall.

I cannot get a 404 error page to see which webserver comes up. Looks
like they've got it rigged so that any request for an invalid page
brings up the main page.
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Posted by Daniel Rudy on November 5th, 2003


Somewhere around the time of 11/03/2003 08:26, the world stopped and
listened as Roy Culley contributed this to humanity:

Instead of going through all these hoops to protect a IIS Windows box,
why not just use Apache on GNU/Linux or FreeBSD and solve the whole problem.
:-D
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