Judas schrieb:

One of your well known tactics. You're not worth botherin either with.

Aber ich tue es, damit du hier nochmal Gelegenheitn hast, um gegen
Randgruppen aller Art zu revoltieren. Die Schwulen scheinen dir besonders
am Herz zu liegen.

Greetz
Ron

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Ronny Stepken wrote:
OMG! Another frenchman.

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Diogenes

Diogenes schrieb:

Cool, die Wirklichkeittt wird viel schrecklichher sein.

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On Sunday February 29 2004 9:00 pm, flatfish+++ decided to vomit:

Can't you install drivers such as these the same way XP does at the
beginning of the install process? I remember RH had something you could hit
at the beginning that allowed you to install drivers.

On Sunday February 29 2004 9:00 pm, flatfish+++ decided to vomit:

Via supports where the money is. 90+% marketshare says that's where the
development efforts should go. It says nothing about superiority. Beta was
better than VHS, afterall...

Ronny Stepken wrote:
I can't imagine waking up french everyday like you have to; that's reality in
its most brutal form! Pretending to be cherman doesn't fool anyone.
(Actually, only a frog would think being cherman was better.)

--
Diogenes

In article <20040229233137.GD723@gnuyork.org>, on Sun, 29 Feb 2004
23:37:07 +0000, Billy O'Connor wrote:

Maybe I missed something. Do you have a (believable) source for these
figures? (If so, I predict some new .sig material.)

--
Baer: Can you give ... more specific numbers of licenses sold?
McBride: We're not publishing those at this point in time. Um. We are,
are going through the process of, and, you know, at this time
we are not coming out with additional numbers.
-- Darl McBride. CEO, The SCO Group, describing his licensing successes.

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:00:51 -0500, flatfish+++ wrote:

Itching to get back to troll-mode, eh, flattie? You're not stupid enough
to miss the fact that technical superiority means nothing to a business in
deciding whether to write a driver for this or that OS. It's numerical
superiority that determines everything. It wouldn't matter if Windows ran
500 times slower than Linux, crashed every 15 minutes, and mysteriously
lost 10% of all data you tried to save. If 95% of all home computers run
it, then every hardware vendor out there will support it.

But for some reason, you're trying to pretend otherwise. You say, "If
they thought it was a superior OS, don't you think..." to imply that they
(hardware vendors) think Windows is the superior OS and THAT is why they
support it and not Linux (or FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, OS/2, etc.)

Well, you tried to imply that the reason is that VIA considers anything
but Windows to be inferior. That's pretty obviously not the reason, of
course.

The real reason is one of two things: either they don't think the market
is big enough, or they are worried (with excellent reason) about pissing
off Microsoft.

--
Buford

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:58:31 -0500, Ruel Smith <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:


Possibly?

I have never had to do anything like that.

Anyone care to comment?

flatfish+++

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:00:03 -0500, Ruel Smith <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Yea, but the market dictates what technology will fail, superior or not.
Beta and OS/2 are two examples.
There are many others.

Just because Linux is superior, and I believe it is, does not mean it
will be a success story.

flatfish+++

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:19:59PM -0700, Hamilcar Barca wrote:

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GNU/Linux revenues last quarter: $1 Billion.
micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of *Unix* or GNU.

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|>Can't you install drivers such as these the same way XP does at the
|>beginning of the install process? I remember RH had something you
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|>at the beginning that allowed you to install drivers.
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| Possibly?
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| I have never had to do anything like that.
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| Anyone care to comment?
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| flatfish+++

Yes, all linux distros (that I know of) offer the chance to install
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:36:20 -0500, "Richard Doss" <rtdoss@triton.net>
wrote:

those with queries about installing or using Linux, or those wanting
to blow Redmond's trumpet.

Linux really Linsux
"Ronny Stepken" <ronny-stepken@nexgo.de> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 03:50:14 GMT, Philip Callan <callanca@shaw.ca>
wrote:

Ok. that issue is solved then but only if the user is using Redhat 7.2
although it may work with other distributions I don't know.

flatfish+++

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:46:31 -0600, Buford <mail-me@anywhere.com> wrote:

Where do I say "technical superiority", show me where........

I said "If they thought it was a superior OS......"

Learn to read before you go off on a tangent and reach the wrong
conclusion.
You seem to be very good at missing the point.



So where does that leave Linux?
The bottom line is that the hardware manufacturers will support the
product that is *superior* and ignore the one that is *inferior*.

See above.....


Yes I did.

I said *superior OS*......

It was YOU who added the technically part....

Did I say that?

What does *superior* mean?

Why does it have to be technically superior?

Can't superior mean, sells better?

Sure it can...

You need to learn to read....


Really?

So why don't they release an up to date Linux driver?


No.....

They don't think Linux is worth the time.....
They have already released a driver for RH 7.2, an outdated system.
Maybe they just don't have anybody expressing an interest in Linux?
How on earth could they expect to sell a driver?

I say they are wrong, but hell what say do I have.


You really need to study more BTW.....


flatfish+++

Very Odd as Mandrake Linux instally brilliantly fast on my new PC.
And it has all the latest architecture.
Maybe it is the very frequent problem of faulty ram and or faulty cdrom.

On 2004-03-01, Ruel Smith <noone@nowhere.com> blubbered:

The memory may be a little inexact since I haven't installed SuSE in a
bit of awhile, but I seem to recall being asked if I had a driver disk
I wanted to use. That would be the same point at which Redhat asked.

I recall seeing that on others, too. The only one that comes to mind
right now, though, is Mandrake (possibly the biggest distribution
missing out on being a part of the "Widely-Used Mutt" clique).

I remember Debian asking about modules, but I can't recall if it was
from another disk or it offered to let you insert one it had available
on CD.

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Maybe windows needs a command called "downtime" to calculate time
wasted.

On 2004-03-01, flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> blubbered:
TRANSLATION: "Let me twist those words so they seem to mean less than
they actually mean."

Care to show where RH 7.2 is mentioned anywhere above? Ah, I see now.
It's encoded in the "all linux distros" part.

My bad.

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Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous.

Billy O'Connor <billyoc@gnuyork.org> writes:

Kind of a mixed message with your old quote, though.

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| GNU/Linux revenues last quarter: $1 Billion.
| micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
| It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of
| *Unix* or GNU.
`----

If the question doesn't involve Windows any more, one would ask why MS
has four times the revenue of Linux. Don't get me wrong: If IDC is
right and it's *only* four to one, that's huge gains for Linux. But
it doesn't seem to support the claim that Windows is no longer part of
the equation.

--
Jesse F. Hughes
"That's the base tautological space where by tautological space I mean
a region of truth." -- James S. Harris does philosophy of mathematics.
JSH is a renaissance man.