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The twisted world of The Typical Linux Nutcase.
Posted by Sinister Midget on March 2nd, 2004


On 2004-03-02, Billy O'Connor <billyoc@gnuyork.org> blubbered:
I'm not paying strict attention. I knew about KDE already because I
have it. I didn't realize Gnome was due for another one.

Now I know why Tinker has suddenly decided to start openly attacking
and what brings COLA's clownish mascot, cola_moronator, back to stir
the pot.

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Posted by Billy O'Connor on March 2nd, 2004


On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:02:47PM +0000, Sinister Midget wrote:
Oh, I'm running what will be Gnome 2.6 here now, working on some API
docs for gtkmm. It's really something. Much faster overall than 2.4.

Absolutely, within 2 weeks noone human will even be able to make the
cola stats again. :/

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micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of *Unix* or GNU.

Posted by flatfish+++ on March 2nd, 2004


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:29:35 +0800, Lee Wei Shun
<see.sig@pacific.net.sg> wrote:


At the very least.


Welcome to the real world and it isn't pretty.
I see them everyday and you wouldn't believe, and neither can I, what
the average Windows user does NOT know.

It is so insidious that personally I think it should be made illegal.

Here is a real world example that just happened last night.

My computers are "locked down" with the stuff listed below BTW.

One of children was on AIM chatting and one of her friends invited her
to play Reversi online.

Seems harmless enough right?

Wrong..... Playing that game installs spyware called "Wild Tangent"
which claims it really isn't spyware, but it is.

Spyware Blaster intercepted it and wouldn't allow it, fortunately.

What I suggest to reduce the amount of crap is:

1. A good hosts file.
2.Spyware Blaster (catches spyware BEFORE it gets installed)
3 Adaware
4 Spybot Search and Destroy.
5. Outpost Firewall (mostly to monitor outbound nasties phoning mother)
6. Avast!

All are free for personal use.

It's sad, and very much out of control and one area where Linux is far
superior to Windows at least until these cretins figure out how to do
the same stuff with Linux, which may not even be possible.
I don't know.


So do I!


flatfish+++

Posted by flatfish+++ on March 2nd, 2004


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 10:44:17 +0100, jesse@phiwumbda.org (Jesse F.
Hughes) wrote:


Exactly!

Superior in terms of generation of revenue.

flatfish+++

Posted by Daeron on March 2nd, 2004


flatfish+++ wrote:

It's always these little 'personal' touches that give it away.
Whether it's mrs flatfish and the problem with the school computer that
he can't remember the name of etc.

The only children you know are the ones that follow you in the street
yelling 'here comes Mr. stinkey'. You know that time once a month you go
to the market and buy a ton of dog food. That way you save on expences.

Posted by Ruel Smith on March 2nd, 2004


On Tuesday March 2 2004 3:50 am, paul cooke decided to vomit:


I've preached the Linux gospel to my friends, but they're not listening.
They will...give it time.

Posted by Ruel Smith on March 2nd, 2004


On Tuesday March 2 2004 3:18 am, Peter Köhlmann decided to vomit:

If the rpm was built for a certain version of a certain Linux distro, it
probably won't run on something else that it wasn't designed for. You
generally can't run Mandrake rpms in SuSE...

Posted by Peter Köhlmann on March 2nd, 2004


Ruel Smith wrote:

You generally can, as long as the dependencies are met
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Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings.


Posted by Kirk Morris on March 3rd, 2004


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:43:25 -0500, flatfish+++ brought forth for the
ages:

On this, we agree. Without windows-specific accessories, CompUSA would be
gone.

Try to find a generic three-button mouse ... no got. Plenty of Windows
'Scroll" mice, though.

Try to find a generic usb keyboard ... no got. Plenty of gussified Windows
boards, though.

The whole store is like this now. The only way you can find standard,
non-Windows items is to buy them on-line. They won't be in stock.

Plainly, many items are manufactured just for the gullible Windows buyers.

And in this case, 'gullible' is not to be taken as a blind pejorative. You
need only look at the Ronald Macdonald quality of the items to see that
Windows users will buy junk that would make a pimp blush.

K

--
"To use Emacs is to practice Zen.
Every command is a koan.
Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated.
You discover truth everytime you use it." --reddy@lion.austin.ibm.com

Posted by Kirk Morris on March 3rd, 2004


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:07:37 +0000, Billy O'Connor brought forth for the
ages:

Yep. Revenge of the Trollbots is about to begin.

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"To use Emacs is to practice Zen.
Every command is a koan.
Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated.
You discover truth everytime you use it." --reddy@lion.austin.ibm.com

Posted by Wayne Throop on March 3rd, 2004


: Kirk Morris <justforfun@mfire.com>
: Try to find a generic three-button mouse ... no got.
: Plenty of Windows 'Scroll" mice, though.

I went looking for optical generic 3-button mice. I couldn't find a
source for them, period. There may be one, but I couldn't find it by
yahoo-ing and google-ing around. It's possible that some of the
programmable 4 or 5 button mice and/or trackballs could work, but (a)
expensive, and (b) I don't find any of them natural to the hand.

I really don't like scroll mice. Feh, ew, ik.

So despite my mice always getting clogged with cat hair, I'm stuck with
mechanical mice. The cheap memorex one seems to suit me. Shrug.

Posted by Kirk Morris on March 3rd, 2004


On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 05:18:44 +0000, Wayne Throop brought forth for the
ages:

FWIW, I found three button USB mice at OfficeMax for $3. Not optical,
though.

--
"To use Emacs is to practice Zen.
Every command is a koan.
Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated.
You discover truth everytime you use it." --reddy@lion.austin.ibm.com

Posted by Billy O'Connor on March 3rd, 2004


On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:12:14AM -0500, Kirk Morris wrote:
It's going to be different this time, though. I'm planning an all out
war against trolls. Killfiles for all popular newsreaders will be
regularly updated, along with instructions about how to easily report
abuses to various ISP's.

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micros~1 revenues last quarter: $4 Billion.
It's no longer a question of windows or GNU, it's a question of *Unix* or GNU.

Posted by Linønut on March 3rd, 2004


Fearing a spontaneous XP reboot, Wayne Throop mumbled this incantation:

Target does/did have generic mice (including optical 3-button) from
General Electric.

I've got one here. I'm not using it, though, because the cord is
way too short, and I'm not keen on the way it handles.

--
No, I won't fix your Windows computer!

Posted by Ruel Smith on March 5th, 2004


On Friday March 5 2004 4:22 pm, Mark Kent decided to vomit:

40% of AMD chipsets, maybe, but not 40% of motherboard chipsets. Intel has
the biggest slice of the pie.

Again, this is apples and oranges. We're discussing supporting Via SATA RAID
controllers and not Via chipsets for motherboards.

I didn't say LOW in priority, but rather LOWER in priority. There is a big
difference. It's important for Via to have their chipsets support, but less
important to have their SATA RAID controllers supported. It's not that it
isn't important, just not as important.


Posted by Mark Kent on March 5th, 2004


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Ruel Smith <noone@nowhere.com> espoused:
You must work in a very high-profit environment to be able to seriously
consider ignoring 4%, 8% or 10% of the market. Via currently claim to
have 40% of the total chipset market, and would like to move to 50%.

Via's market niche is supporting PCC133 SDRAMS which Intel does not
support - see how easy it is to give up market share. That marketing
niche has got Via to 40% and growing.

Via will certainly be looking at gaining any additional market share
that they can, and since 99% of the work has been done for Via chipsets
in Linux anyway, a *very* easy way of getting half-way to their 50%
market share target will be Linux support. As you say, companies
will put their resources where the returns are greatest for the
lowest cost.

It's merely not done yet, not low in priority.


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Posted by Mark Kent on March 6th, 2004


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Ruel Smith <noone@nowhere.com> espoused:
They claim 40%. If you can find any better info, please feel free to
post it.

Since these things are on the same motherboard, they are very much part
of the same issue for Via - you might make a distinction, but to Via,
a sale is a sale is a sale. We're discussing neither apples nor oranges,
merely money.

It's just not done yet, it's not lower in priority.

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