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Cannot delete a folder in Program files
Posted by Desperate Dan on April 21st, 2006


I was searching through Program Files from the ' run ' part of 'start' and I
came across a folder titled 'WindowsNT' which contains the following - TAPI
3.0 dialler.exe and IP multicast conference viewer and another file or folder
titled htrn jis.dll hyper terminal applet library from hilgraeve.inc.
When I try to delete them, they disappear and then reappear for no apparent
reason. How do I get rid of them for good?

Posted by Jerry on April 21st, 2006


Lot's of luck. I've been trying to do that for months and have had no luck.

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Posted by Ted Zieglar on April 21st, 2006


They are part of the operating system.

TAPI is the Windows phone dialer, used for such things as internet calls and
faxing.

IP multicast is a protocol that can been used to deliver streaming media
including audio, video, and data.

Hyperterminal is a terminal emulation program licensed by Microsoft from
Hilgraeve. Hyperterminal lets you connect to other computers, internet
telnet sites, bulletin board services, online services, and host computers,
using either a modem or a null modem cable. It's hardly ever used these
days. Of course, having said that I may get blasted by people who still use
it :-)

--
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

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Posted by Richard Urban MVP on April 22nd, 2006


They reappear because the operating system is preventing unknowledgeable
users from shooting themselves in the foot.

Why do you think that you can just delete files as you wish? Were you
successful you would likely kill your operating system, or at least destroy
some of it functionality.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

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Posted by Jerry on April 22nd, 2006


I cannot delete the Windows NT folder under any condition - and all the
files that were therein have been moved elsewhere and the programs
successfully run from the new location.

So, why is the operating system re-creating totally empty and unusable
folders? And, yes, I think I should be able to delete any and all empty
folders; especially when I know nothing can or will be rendered inoperable.

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Posted by Desperate Dan on April 22nd, 2006


Thank you to all who have replied and helped me out, a special thank-you to
richard urban mvp who was obviously born a computer genius and has never made
any mistakes.

"Ted Zieglar" wrote:

Posted by Richard Urban MVP on April 22nd, 2006


Research and then act = YES
Act and then research = NO

It will save a lot of people much heartache.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

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If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

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Posted by mhc on April 23rd, 2006


You can delete the files if you turn off the service called Cryptographic
Services -- this will stop Windows from restoring protected files when you
delete them. You will then get all sorts of scary messages from Windows File
Protection, all of which can be ignored IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. But
you cannot remove the empty folders, for some stupid reason Windows will
re-create them every time you reboot.

You can go one step further. If you rename the files SFC.DLL, SFC_OS.DLL,
and SFCFILES.DLL to anything else and then reboot, you will be able to
permanently remove the Windows NT folder -- and anything else you wish;
again, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

I personally hacked the SFC_OS.DLL file to re-enable the "hidden" -63 value
which will turn off Windows File Protection through the registry. This means
I must live with unnecessary empty folders like Windows NT, MSN Gaming Zone,
Netmeeting, etc -- but it's a necessary trade-off because Microsoft, in its
infinite wisdom, forces users to keep SFC-OS.DLL active if they want to
install new hardware on their system.

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