In microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain R. McCarty <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I use Perfect Disk 7.0 and for the Boot/App defined modules (Purple) to
> be placed at the beginning of the volume you have to change PDisk's
> Tools, Advanced Configuration to "Let Perfect Disk Manage all the
> Layout.Ini Files", which is not the default setting. On my non-XP disk
> partitions all the Purple (Boot) files are placed at the start of the
> volume.

Mine is set that way, and it doesn't move the purple files to the front
for the non-system volumes. Hum.... I will investigate further...
Thanks for the tip.

R. McCarty wrote:

> <frodo@theshire.org> wrote:
>> null wrote:
>>> frodo@theshire.org wrote:
>>
>>>> [PerfectDisk does] its own version of the prefetch optimize
>>>> <snip> But it only does it for the boot partition (the one
>>>> w/ \windows), and not any others (PD 7 at least). <snip>
>>
>>> This isn't true. I run PerfectDisk 7, and when I analyze a
>>> non-Windows drive, I see purple "Boot" files indicated. And I've
>>> verified that the ones so colored are actually used by programs
>>> that run during startup.
>>
>> That is true, but you should also notice that it did not move those
>> purple files to the front of the volume, as it does for the windows
>> volume. Hence my remark.
>
> I use Perfect Disk 7.0 and for the Boot/App defined modules (Purple)
> to be placed at the beginning of the volume you have to change PDisk's
> Tools, Advanced Configuration to "Let Perfect Disk Manage all the
> Layout.Ini Files", which is not the default setting. On my non-XP disk
> partitions all the Purple (Boot) files are placed at the start of the
> volume.

Same here. I have the same option enabled, and always have. I
overlooked that setting, but it does explain the difference in the
behavior we're noting here.

I wrote to Raxco support some time ago to obtain clarification on this
setting, and the reason it isn't "recommended" is simply because if it
is enabled, defrags can take longer--because PerfectDisk needs to move
more stuff (i.e. "Boot" files) around.

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>I use Perfect Disk 7.0 and for the Boot/App defined modules (Purple) to
> be placed at the beginning of the volume you have to change PDisk's
> Tools, Advanced Configuration to "Let Perfect Disk Manage all the
> Layout.Ini Files", which is not the default setting. On my non-XP disk
> partitions all the Purple (Boot) files are placed at the start of the
> volume.

Same here!

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Following up:

very interesting.....

1) I _DO_ have the advanced setting set to "let PD manage"

2) my volume config: E: - system disk (the 1 w/ boot.ini; pagefile too)
F: - boot disk (the one w/ \windows)
G: - data disk (I install most Programs here,
rather than on F:\Programs...)

All on the same drive, a SATA Raid 0 setup.

3) layout.ini refs many files from F:, and from G:, as expected since
many of my programs live on G: rather than F:

4) PD Analyze of F: shows the light-purple files, all moved to the front
- just great, and as expected.

PD Analyze of G: shows no light-purple files at all. "Files" tab
shows count of "boot" files as 0. NOT what I'd expect.

Goto Advanced setting, change "let PD manage" to "disable", re-analyze
G: and now the light-purple files show up, "Files" tab says there are
about 700 of them; they are scattered all about. But defrag it and it
doesn't move them (again, as expected since I disabled PD's management of
them). Recheck "Let PD Manage", and light-purples go away again. So, I
can't get it to move them to the front of the disk, nor even consolidate
them.

Weird!

I tried doing a standard XP "defrag g: -b", and it _TOO_ did nothing.
[I swear it used to, by my memory may be affected by all the halfling weed
over the years]. Apparently drive G: is not "eligable" for boot
optimizing, and PD "knows" this (presumably by calling something in XP).

I don't know why, and I'm tired! Time for some Ol' Tobby, XP is getting
heavy, very heavy.... and my brain hurts too!

I may remove and reinstall PD, but frankly I don't expect that to
resolve anything. My system DOES work, and I don't feel like "fixing" it
tonight. And it's plenty fast, I doubt "fixing" it would actually result
in any real improvment. But it is a mystery...

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So, you guys are saying that your non-system partitions show
light-purple files all moved to the front, huh?

BTW, I have PD 7 build 31

Thanks for listening...

Current build for Perfect Disk 7.0 is build 42. Part of your problem may
be the need to do an Offline session on your non-XP partitions/volumes
before doing the GUI based. I'm assuming you have your PD set for the
"Aggressive" consolidation mode.

<frodo@theshire.org> wrote in message
news:11lqh1qcd7gakf6@corp.supernews.com...
> Following up:
>
> very interesting.....
>
> 1) I _DO_ have the advanced setting set to "let PD manage"
>
> 2) my volume config: E: - system disk (the 1 w/ boot.ini; pagefile too)
> F: - boot disk (the one w/ \windows)
> G: - data disk (I install most Programs here,
> rather than on F:\Programs...)
>
> All on the same drive, a SATA Raid 0 setup.
>
> 3) layout.ini refs many files from F:, and from G:, as expected since
> many of my programs live on G: rather than F:
>
> 4) PD Analyze of F: shows the light-purple files, all moved to the front
> - just great, and as expected.
>
> PD Analyze of G: shows no light-purple files at all. "Files" tab
> shows count of "boot" files as 0. NOT what I'd expect.
>
> Goto Advanced setting, change "let PD manage" to "disable", re-analyze
> G: and now the light-purple files show up, "Files" tab says there are
> about 700 of them; they are scattered all about. But defrag it and it
> doesn't move them (again, as expected since I disabled PD's management of
> them). Recheck "Let PD Manage", and light-purples go away again. So, I
> can't get it to move them to the front of the disk, nor even consolidate
> them.
>
> Weird!
>
> I tried doing a standard XP "defrag g: -b", and it _TOO_ did nothing.
> [I swear it used to, by my memory may be affected by all the halfling weed
> over the years]. Apparently drive G: is not "eligable" for boot
> optimizing, and PD "knows" this (presumably by calling something in XP).
>
> I don't know why, and I'm tired! Time for some Ol' Tobby, XP is getting
> heavy, very heavy.... and my brain hurts too!
>
> I may remove and reinstall PD, but frankly I don't expect that to
> resolve anything. My system DOES work, and I don't feel like "fixing" it
> tonight. And it's plenty fast, I doubt "fixing" it would actually result
> in any real improvment. But it is a mystery...
>
> ----------
>
> So, you guys are saying that your non-system partitions show
> light-purple files all moved to the front, huh?
>
> BTW, I have PD 7 build 31
>
> Thanks for listening...
>

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general R. McCarty <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Current build for Perfect Disk 7.0 is build 42. Part of your problem may
> be the need to do an Offline session on your non-XP partitions/volumes
> before doing the GUI based. I'm assuming you have your PD set for the
> "Aggressive" consolidation mode.

I have done offline's in the past, not recently tho.

I've tried both agressive free space and non-agressive, same situation.

I'll investigate a bit more today, time willing. Thanks...

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general frodo@theshire.org wrote:
> I'll investigate a bit more today, time willing. Thanks...

Did so, reinstalled PD just for grins, same thing. G: drive does not do
the boot files thing, as described in prior post. I'm at a loss to
explain why...

OK, following up one last time:

My issue has been resolved, and doing so takes us full circle, back to
Original Poster's "problem" [and I'm sorry we veered wildly astray before
actually resolving it!].

After doing the reinstall, I noticed the PerfectDisk.adm file in the
install directory. I read it w/ notepad. It defines the Group Policy
settings for PD, and in it you can see the reg setting values for doing
boot file optimization. These correspond to the reg value at

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Raxco\PerfectDisk\7.0]
"PDManageLayoutIni"=dword:00000001

as listed above, I changed this w/ regedit from its "as installed" value
of 3 to 1.

Now, when I choose Tools | Advanced Configuration, the General tab's
"Optimization of files..." section has the 2nd line choosen ("Let PD
Manage ALL the layout.ini files") instead of the 1st line. And now the
light-purple files do show up, on both volumes, and they do get optimized
to the front of the volume. Yeah!

HOWEVER, this 2nd line (and the 3rd too) are dimmed and can not be choosen
using the GUI. THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL POSTER'S COMPLAINT. I only got it
set that way because I edited the registry entry above by hand.

FWIW, my apps do SEEM to load a tad faster now that the non-windows volume
has been optimized too, but that could just be my imagination.

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Thanks for leading me down this path, I bid you all a fond farewell and
pass into the West a happier (and optimized) little fellow. I hope others
benefit from this exchange too.

-F-