Hello everybody,
MOVING FILES with drag and drop or copy and paste is incredibly slow on
my machine.
when using it THE first minute nothing happens, task manager shows " no
response"
after a while everything works normally ???
It does not matter what kind of files.
And it does not matter if the file stays on one HD or is transferred to
the second

Pentium 1,2Ghz, 512MB Ram, 80GB HD + 16 GB HD, DVD +/- Brenner. WINXP
Pro.
Runs nicely with no problems
The PC is maintained regurlarly.
windows explorer opens immediately

Please Help!
Abba Dingo




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Abba Dingo

Abba Dingo wrote:

Big_Al;3134357 Wrote:
Size does not seem to matter.The movement STARTS after 9 seconds.
Then it takes notime for smaller files or you see these sheets moving
from folder to folder for an appropiate time.




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Abba Dingo

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open Disk
Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative.

These questions are asked to get background information not because I
think you might need to run Disk Defragmenter!

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
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Abba Dingo wrote:

Gerry;3134557 Wrote:
Hi Gerry
here the reports of the two partitions of the main HD

Volume (E

Volumegröße = 37,27 GB
Clustergröße = 32 KB
Belegter Speicherplatz = 10,00 GB
Freier Speicherplatz = 27,27 GB
Freier Speicherplatz (%) = 73 %

Volumefragmentierung
Fragmentierung gesamt = 0 %
Dateifragmentierung = 1 %
Speicherplatzfragmentierung = 0 %

Dateifragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl der Dateien = 15.765
Durchschnittliche Dateigröße = 641 KB
Fragmentierte Dateien insgesamt = 81
Auslagerungsdateifragmente insges. = 190
Durchschnittl. Fragmente pro Datei = 1,01

Fragmentierung der Auslagerungsdatei
Auslagerungsdateigröße = 0 Bytes
Gesamtanzahl Fragmente = 0

Ordnerfragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl Ordner = 1.406
Fragmentierte Ordner = 2
Zusätzliche Ordnerfragmente = 3

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Fragmente Dateigröße Am stärksten fragmentierte Dateien
8 632 KB \System Volume

Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP248\change.log.1
10 10 MB \Eigene Daten\Email\Inbox
49 30 MB \Eigene Daten\Email\Trash
3 190 KB \Eigene Daten\Email\Trash.msf
3 448 KB \Eigene
Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\AARegister
5 17 MB \Eigene
Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\K.sbd\ina
4 8 MB \Eigene
Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\We.sbd\Ane
8 14 MB \Eigene
Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\Wt.sbd\An
9 1 MB \Eigene

Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\Werkstatt.sbd\Kunden.sbd\Wel ter
5 5 MB \Eigene

Daten\Email\Inbox.sbd\Werkstatt.sbd\Kunden.sbd\Web er
2 1.005 KB \Eigene Daten\Br\Sy.odb
2 33 KB \Eigene
Daten\Adressbuch\Adressbuch.odb
2 75 KB \Spiele\Cs\SavedGames\N Zy\M
2 283 KB \Desktop\cauldron_256.ico
2 194 KB \Desktop\KEYS_256.ICO
2 195 KB \Desktop\sws_256.ico
2 58 KB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\DivBilder\Diff.jpg
2 89 KB
\Desktop\Bildarchiv\DivBilder\Wt\Thumbs.db
2 80 KB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\Bilder
Querschnitt\Thumbs.db
3 2 MB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\Bilder
Querschnitt\Gel2.jpg
2 760 KB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\Portfolio

Michael\Tor\Kg\DSCN1350.JPG
2 232 KB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\Wr\Thumbs.db
2 125 KB \Desktop\Bildarchiv\Portfolio
a\Leuchter\Thumbs.db
3 83 KB

\Desktop\Bildarchiv\Homepage\Homepagegr\FigurenM\H n\Thumbs.db
3 555 KB
\Desktop\Formulare\Praktikantenvertrag.odt
3 71 KB \Kunden\Pl\Thumbs.db
3 1 MB \Kunden\Pl\AngebotTor.odt
4 5 MB \Kunden\Zn\Tor2.psd
19 26 MB \Kunden\Kundenbeendet\S\Fertig\Ohne
Titel-1.psd
3 67 KB \Kunden\Wo\Thumbs.db


Volume (C

Volumegröße = 37,27 GB
Clustergröße = 32 KB
Belegter Speicherplatz = 19,66 GB
Freier Speicherplatz = 17,61 GB
Freier Speicherplatz (%) = 47 %

Volumefragmentierung
Fragmentierung gesamt = 6 %
Dateifragmentierung = 12 %
Speicherplatzfragmentierung = 0 %

Dateifragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl der Dateien = 98.852
Durchschnittliche Dateigröße = 158 KB
Fragmentierte Dateien insgesamt = 1.010
Auslagerungsdateifragmente insges. = 3.089
Durchschnittl. Fragmente pro Datei = 1,03

Fragmentierung der Auslagerungsdatei
Auslagerungsdateigröße = 1,73 GB
Gesamtanzahl Fragmente = 45

Ordnerfragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl Ordner = 8.101
Fragmentierte Ordner = 24
Zusätzliche Ordnerfragmente = 165

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Fragmente Dateigröße Am stärksten fragmentierte Dateien
21 1 MB \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DLLCACHE\MSJET40.DLL
50 8 MB
\WINDOWS\ASSEMBLY\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Syste m\ba0e3a22211ba7343e0116b051f2965a\System.ni.dll
21 12 MB
\WINDOWS\ASSEMBLY\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\Syste m.Web\67cfb70213562afe2ca9b9066764af3a\System.Web. ni.dll
24 1 MB \Dokumente und Einstellungen\All
Users\Anwendungsdaten\Symantec\LiveUpdate\4.Settin gs.LiveUpdate
37 65 MB \Dokumente und Einstellungen\Michael
Haase\Anwendungsdaten\Thunderbird\Profiles\zee4ale y.Michael\Mail\Local
Folders\Inbox.sbd\Werkstatt.sbd\Werbung.sbd\Hephai stos
38 27 MB \Dokumente und Einstellungen\Michael
Haase\Anwendungsdaten\Real\RealPlayer\DB\TRACKS.FP T
115 12 MB \Programme\Gemeinsame Dateien\Microsoft
Shared\OFFICE11\MSO.DLL
18 4 MB \Programme\Autodesk\Autodesk DWF
Viewer\EMODEL\EModelViewer.dll
20 12 MB
\Programme\Java\jre1.6.0_05\BIN\CLIENT\CLASSES.JSA
38 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP238\A0106010.MFL
22 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP238\A0106019.MFL
21 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP238\A0106101.MFL
19 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP238\A0106111.MFL
32 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP242\A0106305.MFL
47 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP242\A0106347.MFL
61 113 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP245\A0107537.EXE
21 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP246\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER _S-1-5-21-1177238915-1645522239-725345543-1003
16 511 KB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP247\change.log.1
80 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP248\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER _S-1-5-21-1177238915-1645522239-725345543-1003
36 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP250\A0110893.ILG
20 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP252\A0112068.MFL
28 25 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0112148.EXE
56 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0112286.MFL
39 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0113183.MFL
22 1 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0113216.MFL
21 3 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0113346.MFL
33 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP253\A0113470.MFL
35 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP255\SNAPSHOT\_REGISTRY_USER_NTUSER _S-1-5-21-1177238915-1645522239-725345543-1003
23 2 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP257\A0116787.MFL
66 117 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{7C2ACDD0-3033-4067-BAFC-F7CBBCFD82A4}\RP257\A0117044.EXE

Helpfull ?

Abba Dingo




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Abba Dingo

Abba

Your Reports show that both partitions are formatted as FAT32 and not,
as is more common for computers where Windows XP is the operating
system, NTFS. For volumes (partitions) over 32 gb it is generally
recommended that they should be formatted as NTFS. Both your partitions
are over 32 gb.

NTFS or FAT32?
NTFS is the recommended file system for Windows XP and provides a number
of benefits in terms of functionality, security, stability,
availability, reliability, and performance. There are very few reasons
to persist with FAT32.
If your PC has an earlier version of Windows on it in a dual-boot or
multi-boot configuration with Windows XP then do not convert the
system/boot partition to NTFS because if you do, the older version of
Windows will not boot.
Source: http://kadaitcha.cx/ntfs.html

A more detailed explanation of the merits of the two alternatives is
given in the next link:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfs.htm

Given your concern over the time taken to move files this quote from the
previous link may be relevant. "Searching directories in NTFS uses a
more efficient stucture for its access to files, so searching a FAT
partition is a slower process in big directories. Scanning the FAT for
the pieces of a fragmented file is also slower."

You may find moving especially large files is a more laboured process
than copying and the deleting the file at it's old location. However,
when deleting use the Shift + Delete keyboard shortcut to bypass the
Recycle Bin or you will quickly fill the Bin. However, be extremely
careful to delete the right file as you cannot restore files which have
been deleted using Shift + Delete, whereas you can restore files whilst
they remain in the Recycle Bin.

Did you deliberately decide to format the drive as FAT32 or was it
because you upgraded from an operating system ( like Windows 98 ) that
used FAT32?

Is the computer dual booting? What is on the 16 gb drive?

Both partitions have adequate free diskspace with the average file size
on your C partition at 158 kb, which is fairly typical of an operating
system partition. The average file size on your E partition is
significantly greater at 641 kb. This suggests that the savings on disk
space utilisation from converting the E partition to NTFS would be less
significant than they would be from converting your C partition to NTFS.
Note that with your pagefile on C, which is regularly accessed, is
another argument for converting your C partition to NTFS.

System Restore. You should not have System Restore set to monitor any
partition other than your C partition. It serves no useful purpose. Also
the default disk space allocation to System Restore is 12% of the disk,
which is wasting disk space on a disk of your size. Reduce it on C to 3%
or 1gb. Turning off System Restore for partition E will remove the disk
space allocation for that partition.
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Abba Dingo wrote:

Gerry;3135040 Wrote:
Hi Gerry,
thanks alot for Your detailed answer,
I'll follow Your advicer for system restore and would do for the NTFS
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if being assured that i can do without difficulties.
To put it short : Can You tell me how to do it ?
And Yes the Fat 32 is for update reason,
the PC is not dual booting,
Here the reports on the 16 GB HD :


Vplume D
Clustergröße = 4 KB
Belegter Speicherplatz = 119 MB
Freier Speicherplatz = 5,35 GB
Freier Speicherplatz (%) = 97 %

Volumefragmentierung
Fragmentierung gesamt = 0 %
Dateifragmentierung = 0 %
Speicherplatzfragmentierung = 0 %

Dateifragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl der Dateien = 428
Durchschnittliche Dateigröße = 218 KB
Fragmentierte Dateien insgesamt = 0
Auslagerungsdateifragmente insges. = 0
Durchschnittl. Fragmente pro Datei = 1,00

Fragmentierung der Auslagerungsdatei
Auslagerungsdateigröße = 0 Bytes
Gesamtanzahl Fragmente = 0

Ordnerfragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl Ordner = 63
Fragmentierte Ordner = 1
Zusätzliche Ordnerfragmente = 0

MFT-Fragmentierung (Master File Table)
MFT-Größe insgesamt = 13 MB
MFT-Eintragsanzahl = 507
MFT belegt (%) = 3 %
MFT-Fragmente insgesamt = 3

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Fragmente Dateigröße Am stärksten fragmentierte Dateien
Keine

Volume F:
Volumegröße = 13,70 GB
Clustergröße = 512 Bytes
Belegter Speicherplatz = 4,70 GB
Freier Speicherplatz = 8,99 GB
Freier Speicherplatz (%) = 65 %

Volumefragmentierung
Fragmentierung gesamt = 3 %
Dateifragmentierung = 7 %
Speicherplatzfragmentierung = 0 %

Dateifragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl der Dateien = 951
Durchschnittliche Dateigröße = 6 MB
Fragmentierte Dateien insgesamt = 19
Auslagerungsdateifragmente insges. = 114
Durchschnittl. Fragmente pro Datei = 1,11

Fragmentierung der Auslagerungsdatei
Auslagerungsdateigröße = 0 Bytes
Gesamtanzahl Fragmente = 0

Ordnerfragmentierung
Gesamtanzahl Ordner = 217
Fragmentierte Ordner = 2
Zusätzliche Ordnerfragmente = 2

MFT-Fragmentierung (Master File Table)
MFT-Größe insgesamt = 30 MB
MFT-Eintragsanzahl = 1.203
MFT belegt (%) = 3 %
MFT-Fragmente insgesamt = 3

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Fragmente Dateigröße Am stärksten fragmentierte Dateien
19 5 MB \Musik\Voices From With\yat kah\solun
chaagai sovet churtum.mp3
16 1 MB \Musik\Voices From With\sainkho
nahchylak\bai-laa taigam.mp3
12 74 MB \Musik\Paxahau wwwpaxah(1).mp3
9 59 MB \Musik\Paxahau wwwpaxah(2).mp3
9 47 MB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\Aaron
Spectre\Reptile Dub(1).mp3
8 4 MB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\Leekid\Aller
Simple - Feb 2007.mp3
8 18 MB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\Aaron
Spectre\Reptile Dub.mp3
7 3 MB \Musik\Voices From With\dead can
dance\the writing on my fathers hand.mp3
5 204 KB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\MPIIIcom\The
B(1).mp3
5 180 KB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\MPIIIcom\The
B(2).mp3
5 48 MB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\Ade
Fenton\Invader - Dec 2006.mp3
5 986 KB \bookmarks.html
5 7 MB \Musik\Voices From
With\kabuki\atsumori.mp3
4 55 MB \Musik\Paris-OneCom
GMT\DIABL'S\CONNEXION AT DIABL'S 10_DIABL'S.mp3
4 982 KB \Musik\MPIIIcom - The B\Ade
Fenton\Invader - Dec 2006(1).mp3
4 4 MB \Musik\Voices From With\ivo papasov &
his bulgarian wedding band\mamo marie mamo.mp3
4 2 MB \Musik\Voices From
With\huun-huur-tu\prayer.mp3
2 32 MB \Musik\Bigbeat.ch - Live, 08-10-2007,
12 Uhr 34.mp3
2 8 KB \System Volume Information\catalog.wci
2 52 KB \Downloads




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Abba Dingo

Abba

When you make significant changes like the way the drive is formatted is
not possible to guarantee that things won't go wrong so back up your
important data.

Here's another another link explaining how to convert to NFTS.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Abba Dingo wrote:

Gerry;3135314 Wrote:
Hi Gerry,
something else I'd like to mention :
On an external HD of 80 GB formatted in NTFS
I do have the same problem !

Do You still think formatting to NTFS is the solution ?

Abba Dingo




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Abba Dingo

Abba

Perhaps you should look at another aspect regarding the drives.

TryHD Tune HD Tune only gives information and does not fix any problems.

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Make sure you do a full
surface scan with HD Tune.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute


Abba Dingo wrote: