- RAM Recovery
- Posted by Lady Yuna on January 17th, 2006
Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM particularly
after playing a game from a disc offline. System Mechanic Pro has one but i
dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any suggestions?
- Posted by Kerry Brown on January 17th, 2006
Lady Yuna wrote:
> Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
> particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
> Mechanic Pro has one but i dont want to install the whole program.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
I don't understand what you are trying to do. Perhaps a reboot after playing
the game will solve your problem?
Kerry
- Posted by Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) on January 17th, 2006
Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up.. reboot
after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
> Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM particularly
> after playing a game from a disc offline. System Mechanic Pro has one but
> i
> dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any suggestions?
- Posted by Lady Yuna on January 17th, 2006
Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but I would
still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who didnt understand
what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a disc it uses the RAM and
the computer doesnt always recover all that Ram when you close the game down
making the computer a bit sluggish. As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im
just curioes about a program to recover it without rebooting.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up.. reboot
> after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
> > Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM particularly
> > after playing a game from a disc offline. System Mechanic Pro has one but
> > i
> > dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>
>
- Posted by Kerry Brown on January 17th, 2006
The garbage collection routines in XP will eventually recover the RAM unless
it is an extremely poorly written program. A reboot will force the issue.
From your description of the problem it sounds like the real problem is you
do not have enough RAM to start with. RAM recovery programs are snakeoil and
not worth using. They invariably use more resources than they free up and
cause many problems with other programs. In earlier versions of Windows
memory managers were sometimes useful. In Windows XP they are a waste of
time.
Kerry
Lady Yuna wrote:
> Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but I
> would still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who
> didnt understand what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a
> disc it uses the RAM and the computer doesnt always recover all that
> Ram when you close the game down making the computer a bit sluggish.
> As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im just curioes about a program
> to recover it without rebooting.
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up..
>> reboot after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
>>> Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
>>> particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
>>> Mechanic Pro has one but i
>>> dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any
>>> suggestions?
- Posted by Lady Yuna on January 17th, 2006
I am running XP on a 2.8 Gig processor with 512mb RAM. Is that not enough?
"Kerry Brown" wrote:
> The garbage collection routines in XP will eventually recover the RAM unless
> it is an extremely poorly written program. A reboot will force the issue.
> From your description of the problem it sounds like the real problem is you
> do not have enough RAM to start with. RAM recovery programs are snakeoil and
> not worth using. They invariably use more resources than they free up and
> cause many problems with other programs. In earlier versions of Windows
> memory managers were sometimes useful. In Windows XP they are a waste of
> time.
>
> Kerry
>
> Lady Yuna wrote:
> > Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but I
> > would still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who
> > didnt understand what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a
> > disc it uses the RAM and the computer doesnt always recover all that
> > Ram when you close the game down making the computer a bit sluggish.
> > As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im just curioes about a program
> > to recover it without rebooting.
> >
> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up..
> >> reboot after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
> >>> particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
> >>> Mechanic Pro has one but i
> >>> dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any
> >>> suggestions?
>
>
>
>
- Posted by Michael W. Ryder on January 17th, 2006
Lady Yuna wrote:
> I am running XP on a 2.8 Gig processor with 512mb RAM. Is that not enough?
>
Not for all the games out there. I had problems with Morrowind at times
where the RAM usage tripled before it crashed because of the "thrashing"
to disk cache.
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>
>>The garbage collection routines in XP will eventually recover the RAM unless
>>it is an extremely poorly written program. A reboot will force the issue.
>>From your description of the problem it sounds like the real problem is you
>>do not have enough RAM to start with. RAM recovery programs are snakeoil and
>>not worth using. They invariably use more resources than they free up and
>>cause many problems with other programs. In earlier versions of Windows
>>memory managers were sometimes useful. In Windows XP they are a waste of
>>time.
>>
>>Kerry
>>
>>Lady Yuna wrote:
>>
>>>Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but I
>>>would still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who
>>>didnt understand what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a
>>>disc it uses the RAM and the computer doesnt always recover all that
>>>Ram when you close the game down making the computer a bit sluggish.
>>>As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im just curioes about a program
>>>to recover it without rebooting.
>>>
>>>"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up..
>>>>reboot after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Mike Hall
>>>>MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
>>>>>particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
>>>>>Mechanic Pro has one but i
>>>>>dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any
>>>>>suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
- Posted by Lady Yuna on January 17th, 2006
Ahhh Ok yes I am playing Spellforce which has already crashed my system
once resulting in a loss of any sound at all. I had to actually install a new
driver for the sound card after this.
"Michael W. Ryder" wrote:
> Lady Yuna wrote:
> > I am running XP on a 2.8 Gig processor with 512mb RAM. Is that not enough?
> >
>
> Not for all the games out there. I had problems with Morrowind at times
> where the RAM usage tripled before it crashed because of the "thrashing"
> to disk cache.
>
>
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The garbage collection routines in XP will eventually recover the RAM unless
> >>it is an extremely poorly written program. A reboot will force the issue.
> >>From your description of the problem it sounds like the real problem is you
> >>do not have enough RAM to start with. RAM recovery programs are snakeoil and
> >>not worth using. They invariably use more resources than they free up and
> >>cause many problems with other programs. In earlier versions of Windows
> >>memory managers were sometimes useful. In Windows XP they are a waste of
> >>time.
> >>
> >>Kerry
> >>
> >>Lady Yuna wrote:
> >>
> >>>Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but I
> >>>would still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who
> >>>didnt understand what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a
> >>>disc it uses the RAM and the computer doesnt always recover all that
> >>>Ram when you close the game down making the computer a bit sluggish.
> >>>As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im just curioes about a program
> >>>to recover it without rebooting.
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up..
> >>>>reboot after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Mike Hall
> >>>>MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
> >>>>>particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
> >>>>>Mechanic Pro has one but i
> >>>>>dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any
> >>>>>suggestions?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
- Posted by Gerry Cornell on January 17th, 2006
You may check on pagefile (virtual memory) usage with
Page File Monitor for XP:
http://www.dougknox.com/
This will show you how dependent you are on virtual memory.
Make sure you study the readme.txt file carefully to ensure
you get the utility to work as it should.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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"Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:26C792E6-D04F-4E57-8D59-6D1AE4511DE5@microsoft.com...
> Ahhh Ok yes I am playing Spellforce which has already crashed my system
> once resulting in a loss of any sound at all. I had to actually install a
> new
> driver for the sound card after this.
>
> "Michael W. Ryder" wrote:
>
>> Lady Yuna wrote:
>> > I am running XP on a 2.8 Gig processor with 512mb RAM. Is that not
>> > enough?
>> >
>>
>> Not for all the games out there. I had problems with Morrowind at times
>> where the RAM usage tripled before it crashed because of the "thrashing"
>> to disk cache.
>>
>>
>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
- Posted by Kerry Brown on January 17th, 2006
It may not be enough memory for games. What type of CPU is it? A 2.8 GHz
Celeron may noy not be fast enough for some games.
If the computer is slower than it used to be for other programs as well you
may have some spyware or malware installed. Another possibility is some new
software that is using a lot of resources. Kodak cameras and many all-in-one
printers install software that can noticeably slow down even the fastest
computers. Some Internet security programs also slow down your computer.
Combine any of these factors and you are sure to have problems. There are
many possibilities. What was the last new thing you installed or attached to
the computer?
Kerry
Lady Yuna wrote:
> I am running XP on a 2.8 Gig processor with 512mb RAM. Is that not
> enough?
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> The garbage collection routines in XP will eventually recover the
>> RAM unless it is an extremely poorly written program. A reboot will
>> force the issue. From your description of the problem it sounds like
>> the real problem is you do not have enough RAM to start with. RAM
>> recovery programs are snakeoil and not worth using. They invariably
>> use more resources than they free up and cause many problems with
>> other programs. In earlier versions of Windows memory managers were
>> sometimes useful. In Windows XP they are a waste of time.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>> Lady Yuna wrote:
>>> Ok Thanks to both Mike and Kerry Yes a reboot does help some but
>>> I would still like to know of any recovery programs. To Kerry who
>>> didnt understand what Im trying to do--when you play a game from a
>>> disc it uses the RAM and the computer doesnt always recover all that
>>> Ram when you close the game down making the computer a bit sluggish.
>>> As I said a reboot does help. I guess Im just curioes about a
>>> program to recover it without rebooting.
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ram recovery programs use more resources than ever they free up..
>>>> reboot after playing, as suggested by Kerry..
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hall
>>>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lady Yuna" <LadyYuna@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8584ED43-DBE0-4010-9A4D-B48224D114D1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hopefully a simple ask. I am after a program to recover RAM
>>>>> particularly after playing a game from a disc offline. System
>>>>> Mechanic Pro has one but i
>>>>> dont want to install the whole program. Does anyone have any
>>>>> suggestions?
- Posted by Glen on January 19th, 2006
What graphics card and how much memory does it have or are you using onboard
graphics. Either way 512 isn't much when playing games but if you only have
a very basic graphics card or onboard chip more ram might not make much
difference for gaming.
Glen P
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