I have a brand new Canon iP3000 that I want to use for non-critical
printing, including test prints for clients (who will have acceptable
images professioinally printed). I've used a really good HP for that
purpose, but am tiring of paying the consumable prices and may use it
only for my own high quality prints. My question is this:

Is it ok to use 3rd party cartidges from eBay with the iP3000 for
general purposes? Any harm to the nozzles, etc.?????

I had a backup BJC6000 which I refilled for several years successfully
(the paper loading mechanism finally bit the dust big time and in any
case the refill inks didn't always print colors brilliantly) but would
prefer to avoid refill mess (I assume I cannot use my stash of 6000 inks
in any case).

Practical experience and ideas welcome. So far I really like the printer.

Thanks.

I wouldn't use anything from EBay, get your ink from a reputable seller and
don't mix. Otherwise you'll be fine.


"Ron Goodenow" <rkgdigiphoto@charter.net> wrote in message
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Dan G wrote:
Not a very professional response.

I use very basic compatible cartridges (similar to what's on eBay) in a
printer with 1 pl nozzles, the smallest in the industry. I've had
absolutely no troubles since I bought the printer late last year.
I haven't even bothered to register it.

Check that the eBay seller has a good reputation (feedback) and don't
necessarily buy the cheapest cartridges you see. Try a set to see how
they work with your printer and keep your original Canon ink cartridges
(that came with the printer) on hand in case of problems (to flush the
previous ink out) and for comparison to see how colors/photos match.

The money you save with just one or two sets of compatibles is enough to
buy you a new printer.

-Taliesyn

Thanks for this advice. Makes good sense. My experience with my previous
Canons is that they are happiest when used frequently. Over the years
I've had pretty good luck with eBay sellers and products (eg., batteries
for digital cameras, etc.). My main concern is real red flags from
actual users. And, I've unclogged a nozzle or two in my time....

Taliesyn wrote:
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Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
Rkgood@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com
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Ron Goodenow wrote:

Cleaning the nozzles even when not needed is probably good maintenance.
I say "probably" because Canon wouldn't want their customers to be
playing with the printhead when it's still under warranty.

Last June, after half a year of use, I took out out my printhead, put it
in a shallow dish and then ran spring water (distilled is even better)
through the intake tubes with a nose dropper. Never have more than a 1/4
inch of water in the dish, changing it frequently. I ran water through
them until no more color came out. A quick dry and it was back in the
printer for a prime, a nozzle check and a printhead alignment.

Yes, rather frequent use is best for any inkjet printer, even if it's
just a page. It avoids the drying of the ink in the nozzles which can
clog them. Everytime I see people posting a "clog problem" question,
they always admit they hardly used the printer. So...

I've only had one problem with a purchase on eBay, and that was a total
fraud scam; there was no actual item. eBay refunded me for most of the
value. On the other hand, I've had more that a 100 wonderful purchases.
You name it, I've bought it. I won't let one bad deal ruin the fun of
eBaying. It's a great shopping place when you consider you never have
to leave the comfort of your home. And I'd still call it "safe". Hey,
I stand a much bigger chance of being robbed or mugged in the street.

-Taliesyn

Have you heard about the Windex remedy? On one of the photo sites I use
regularly a guy said he soaked his iP series print head in a dish of
Windex until it worked perfectly. Said it sometimes took 48 hours, but
it always did the trick. I've used running water on other Canons. They
sell cleaning cartridges, but I've never tried one of those. I used my
6000 heavily for four years and only had to replace printheads once,
using bulk ink 80% of the time. I'd cycle originals through now and
then. I travel a lot and sometimes the printer sits around unused.
Another trick is to do something like a heavy duty powerpoint page at
the highest settings.

So far results with the 3000 have been amazing on Kodak paper. It may be
HP that rots on the home net.

Again, thanks.
Taliesyn wrote:

--
Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
Rkgood@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com
Rkgdigiphoto@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm

Ron Goodenow wrote:


Buying shit from those whore will put you at risk for having clogged
nozzles. If you feel your printload is that high and the money saved is
that much and important then I guess you need to take a chance.

Dan G wrote:

The reputable brand name inks for the Canon are form Canon. Costco is
the best price.

Taliesyn wrote:


A very good response.

Happy Cloggy Woggy from Inky Stinky

Ron Goodenow wrote:

Ron Goodenow wrote:

Yes, I have. I had an early printhead failure on my iP850, just after
two months. I was getting visible print lines (nozzles missing). I tried
all kinds of cleaning solutions. When they all failed I understood it
was a burnout. I replaced the head (my own money) with one I picked up
on eBay $55 USD (free ship in the US) and it's been working fine for
about 7 months (same inks). It's been fed bulk inks mostly. My main
printer, an iP5000 is using compatible cartridges for color and bulk
black ink for the BCI-3e.

I've had terrible results with Kodak Premium Picture Paper. Maybe you're
using a different type. Glad it works for you. My main paper is Costco's
Kirkland brand. It comes in only the full page sheets. I slice them up
with a simple exacto knife and a metal ruler. Works like a charm, always
a razor sharp blade and it costs nothing (dollar store item)

-Taliesyn

http://www.swiftink.com

Great 3rd party ink made in the USA.

Do you know if the bulk black ink for the ip3000 and BJC6000 are the
same? Seems to me the cartridge labels were the same, but I threw the
6000 and its parts away. I've got a ton of the stuff.

Taliesyn wrote:
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Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
Rkgood@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com
Rkgdigiphoto@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm

Well the refill mess can be minimized in one a couple of ways.

1. Refillable tanks... rubber plugs that pop out with ease
2. plastic bottles with a blunt needle tip. I wasn't pleased with the
IMS inks from costco, so I dumped the ink and put MIS in those bottles.

My mess is limited to a few drops in the input port.

I'm not aware of the difference between the BCI-3e color inks and the
BCI-6 color inks, so I don't know what effect using the old ink in the
new printer.
----

My experence with ebay bought tanks is limited to one set. No issues
with clogging, color match was acceptable, but it faided really fast,
faster than Canon OEM ink fast. I think they represents worst case
scenero.

Thanks for this. I'm so happy today with the quality of my prints I may
decide to stay with more premium inks, particularly for the color tanks.
I do recall that my 6000 was much more particular about color than b/w
ink. I never went to the 1 option because I never used a tank for more
than maybe 3 refills. I would then pop in a new Canon and begin the
cycle again. I won't try the old ink until I get more of a definitive
set of opinions.

zakezuke wrote:
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Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
Rkgood@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com
Rkgdigiphoto@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm

You can feel safe using the old black... the ip3000 is using the BCI-3e
so if it worked well before will work well again.

The refillable tanks i'm using are reallly no different than the Canon
tanks, except they have a nice rubber plug. Empties cost me 1/2 the
cost of canon tanks... but i'm lazy and it does remove a step in
refilling.

Neil Shade has a very nice review on three ink options for the Canon
series
http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/inktest.html
Anyone who's a control freak about color should have a looksee.

But in the end, use what you like, be happy. The OEM canon ink is
reasonably priced, more so than other printers.

This is all extremely helpful. I can feel the old 'refill' blood
starting to flow after looking at the MIS site. The refillable bottles
really up the temptation ante, having struggled with various punches and
glue over the years to refill Canon cartridges. I have a whole drawer
filled with various syringes, rubbber gloves and other paraphenalia I
may be able to live without. Again, thanks.

zakezuke wrote:

--
Ronald K. Goodenow, Ph.D.
RKG Digital Photography Services
Independent Writer and Researcher

508-393-5619
508-847-0111 (cell)
Rkgood@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com
Rkgdigiphoto@charter.net http://www.rkgprojects.com/rkgdigiphoto.htm

*You are a mother fucking lying spamming whore.
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KnightCrawler@gmail.com wrote:

Who cares

Ron Goodenow wrote:

zakezuke wrote: