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NEVER BUY EPSON PRINTERS.....
Posted by Viv Jamison on January 11th, 2005


These pieces of Junk are for one off use only...and thats if you are lucky.
As soon as the ink needs replacement, they fail...The heads clog..... as
standards regardless of what ink you use.... this should be in the
manufacturer specification. Not everyone uses up the cartridges within the
warranty period...and so just as the warranty is finishing...so is the ink
and so is the printer life. I routinely and religiously followed the power
down ...print weekly...etc etc recommended by epson... what a load of
crap...and their support department treat you as crap as soon as they hear
the printer is over 1 year old. When the planet is dead and gone any future
civilisation who opens up landfills will inherit nothing but a load of epson
printers.


Posted by SleeperMan on January 11th, 2005


Viv Jamison wrote:
Well, according to my first experience, so is Canon...head is gone after
about 18 months, but at least i refilled about 5 times in this period.
I guess here HP is winner - you replace ink, you replace head, too... but
costly, sure.



Posted by Glen S on January 11th, 2005


Viv Jamison wrote:

I hope I have better luck with my R300 I just bought, FWIW my 5 year or
so old stylus 400 has served me well, had to clean the nozzle the odd
time but thats it...

Posted by Väinö Louekari on January 11th, 2005


Well... my Epson R800 works like a dream. Printing quality (colour and B&W
photographs) is fabulous, even better than I anticipated. The printer has
never given me any trouble at all, at last after all those Lexmarks and
Canons I have got a printer that not only will serve me for many years to
come but will also give the quality I want.

Väinö Louekari

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Posted by Miss Perspicacia Tick on January 11th, 2005


Väinö Louekari wrote:
I have had my SC900 since it was first released (whenever that was - about
seven years ago?) and it's never clogged once. It still is my workhorse
printer. I have an R800 for work that requires something a little more
professional - no problems with that, either.



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Posted by Michael Doherty on January 11th, 2005


I have an Epson 950. I went walkabout in Australia for 3 months and when I
came back I only had to do one Head Clean and I had perfect prints.
Occasionally I forget to reset the printer back to paper mode after printing
CD's and then it wont print. Set it back to paper mode, clean and off it
goes again. The only time this printer has ever dissapointed me is when I
used third party Ink. A simple swap back to Epson Ink and it performed
flawlessly once again.

I've also had an Epson Stylus Color 600 for several years, and never had any
trouble with it other than the odd occasion when it ran out of paper part
way through a print and would then print endless amounts of garbage until I
powered it off.

I never do anything to my printer. It is powered up all the time and just
turns on and off with the PC.

I love Epson printers. Just wish the ink was cheaper.

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Posted by Foz on January 11th, 2005



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When I did have a problem with my Epson photo 700 Epson sent a guy round
within a couple of days even though it was outside the warranty. I was very
impressed with the service!


Foz



Posted by Impmon on January 12th, 2005


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:43:57 GMT, "Viv Jamison" <info@nospam.com>
wrote:

Same thing with my brother's CX5200. It still prints but I need to do
head cleaning 2 or 3 times for each day. It's already down to half
full on the second set and it's only like printed 30 pages that didn't
have streaks.

Caveat Emptor: you get what you pay for.

Fortunately my printer (HP brand) has fared far better, having gone
through maybe 30 ink carts, each of them refilled as many as 6 times
before they're replaced. And it still works.
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Posted by Nice1 on January 12th, 2005



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6 years, i now have a shed full of no good broken printers, 6 infact, i then
went to a HP printer (yes i know it took 6 years lol) that is not to bad,
but as i refill my own inks, the HP has only let me refill about 3 times and
now i got to buy new cartridges and they cost to much for my liking, so now
i have just spent £99.99 for a canon PIXMA ip4000, i must say this printer
is really nice, it prints nice photos and its fast and quiet, i just hope i
don't have problems refilling.



Posted by Jon O'Brien on January 12th, 2005


In article <10WEd.871$9o.213@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, info@nospam.com (Viv
Jamison) wrote:

Funny how lots of people use Epson printers without any problems at all.

Jon. [Using Epson printers for 20 years]

Posted by Arthur Entlich on January 12th, 2005


Although I would agree that the design should be reconfigured to reduce
these problems, you have overstated things considerably.

I own Epson printers that are between two and eight years old. They all
work fine, and they all have had many cartridges put through them. They
do sometimes require maintenance, but that's the nature of inkjet
printers. I do not run them weekly, and sometimes some of the sit
unused for months.

The printers which use Durabrite inks, (some of the C and CX models) do
require a bit more care, but that ink technology is pretty special in
the inkjet field, and there is a price to pay in terms of needing to be
a bit more on top of things to keep the printer from clogging. Also, as
I mentioned in a recent posting, some C and CX printers did have a
design flaw, which is a fairly quick fix, but you have to be aware of
it, and it shouldn't have occurred.

I can't rate Epson for customer service, as I haven't needed to use it
much. I hear reports from pretty much users of all brands of equipment
about customer service issues. I think it depends upon where you live
and the attitude of the services the companies use for that purpose.

Lastly, I couldn't agree with you more about the business model that
encourages tossing out a printer after a year because either it needs
service or it ran out of ink, and the cost of new ink being nearly
identical to the price of the printer. That approach is unacceptable.
If consumers want change, they have to find another alternative and let
the manufacturer's know it with their wallets.

It is one of the reasons I offer the services I do without charge and
support printers that can use refilling or generic inks easily, as
"outdated" as some may find them.

Art

Viv Jamison wrote:


Posted by Impmon on January 12th, 2005


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:08:42 GMT, Arthur Entlich <artistic@telus.net>
wrote:

Can you explain the fix? My brother has cx5200 which clogs
frequently.

TYVM
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Posted by braine_dead@lycos.com on January 13th, 2005


I used to service point-of-sale systems and worked on Epson dot-matrix
printers.
Epson's models always impressed me in quality and design.
I have SC777 and C82...I am still impressed!

Posted by Toby on January 13th, 2005


I had a 2000P--worked great, never had a clog. I have a 2200 now--works
great. I had some clogging problems using recycled inks, but once I switched
back to the Epson inks I've never had a problem, even after a month sitting
idle. It did have a paper-feed problem which was fixed under warranty.
Otherwise I have no complaints, except for ink costs...

Just goes to show that experiences differ, though I know how frustrating it
is when things go bad (we could talk HP...) and understand your feelings.

Toby
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Posted by JohnQPublic on January 13th, 2005



My only advise would be to power it off at the power button. The heads need
to "park" so they don't dry out.
Speaking from experience ;-)


Me too!




Posted by Kennedy McEwen on January 14th, 2005


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clogs you *might* begin to see the common factor. Your problem has
nothing to do with the printer build standard or quality, but everything
to do with what *you* are doing and using.
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Posted by Michael Doherty on January 14th, 2005


I've only experienced this when I forget to change from CD mode back to
Paper.
I believe the head parks when the printer is not in use.
Powering off and on causes exccesive clean cycles and the inks far too
expensive for that.

As I stated earlier, I left the printer for 3 months while touring Australia
and after one clean it was printing perfectly.
All this time the Printer was not powered down, it was just off with the PC.

My old Stylus Color 600 needs powering off though and fairly regular clean
cycles.

--
Mick Doherty
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Posted by Ricardo on January 14th, 2005


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:43:57 GMT, "Viv Jamison" <info@nospam.com>
wrote:

I've had my Epson Salts 880 now for several years, have not had any
trouble with it, and am very happy with it.

Ricardo

Posted by Arthur Entlich on January 14th, 2005


If the problem is the tube having come off the cleaning station vacuum
pump connection, the fix is somewhat complex to explain. Please email
me for details, and other suggestions should it not be this problem.

Art

Impmon wrote:


Posted by Arthur Entlich on January 14th, 2005


Using my vast intuitive abilities, which developed upon exposure to some
radioactive inks when I was a mere child, I'm seeing an image in my head
of someone thinking of the word "refill" and accidentally typing
something that his spell checker decided looked more like "Recycled".

Oh, it's fading now... I have to be very careful when using my super
powers, can't put such a strain on my neurological matrix....

Must sit down... now.

Must not strain my brain...
Must...

Several minutes later, after our super hero rested...

Pete, give this guy a break, what the heck to you THINK he meant?

Art

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