- Strange Canon IP4000 Print Problem
- Posted by Wayne Maruna on December 22nd, 2006
Printer is about a year and a half old. Print head was replaced about 6
months ago. Using generic ink tanks. Normal printing is fine. The issue
is when printing photos, or anything on glossy paper settings. If I set the
printer settings to use standard quality printing and standard paper, the
output is very good. But if I set the paper for photo glossy, or even if I
just set for high quality print, output is terrible. It's like it
over-doses on yellows and reds. The ink nozzles are not clogged, alignment
is OK, ink cartridges are in the correct order, cleaning and deep cleaning
were done and all those test out just fine. It is like there is a problem
with the printer driver for high quality. The machine used to print
jaw-dropping photos. I emailed Canon and got back the usual boilerplate,
and of course they always ask if I am using Canon ink. Well, no, but I
could tell them I do. But even if I do that, they will likely just walk me
through the cleaning and alignment again, because that is what they are
trained to do. For normal output, the printer works fine. And I can print
a photo onto matte photo paper using standard quality and papr settings and
the output is near perfect. But if I select glossy, or high quality print,
weird output ensues. Any ideas out there, other than switch to Canon ink,
which I doubt will make a difference.
- Posted by measekite on December 22nd, 2006
Wayne Maruna wrote:
Oh Yeah
My IP4000 is going strong. Never replaced printhead. Never did a
cleaning. You ask how. I have always used Canon OEM Factory Superior
Ink instead of the crappy headclogging generic garbage.
I think what you are saying is that if you properly set the printer for
what you are doing it does not work properly when using generic ink.
Why I think you should call Canon and ask them why their printer does
not do the job when using generic ink.
Of course you should.
To correct the problem is simple. For around $80.00 (about $20.00 more
than a set of ink) You can get a new IP4300. Use only Canon ink and you
should no longer have this problem.
- Posted by Lee C. Carpenter on December 22nd, 2006
My i900D is having the same problem as Wayne's IP4000 and I've never used
anything but Canon Inks.
- Posted by phreak on December 22nd, 2006
What kibnd of heat/humidity conditions are your printers stored and
operated in.
Do you keep your papers in closed boxes our out in the air??
- Posted by Burt on December 22nd, 2006
"Lee C. Carpenter" <lee@brew-master.com> wrote in message
news:7ZOdneQ5vdU0gRHYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
inks. I can't imagine who wrote the post about Canon OEM Factory Superior
Ink. Could it be the one dufus that I have killfiled????? I have seen
Canon OEM inks for sale. When did they also start selling Canon Factory
Superior Ink??? Dp they charge extra for the Factory Superior Ink?? For
sure I don't want any of that brew since the regular Canon OEM inks are
already too expensive. I'll stay with my $1 per refill Factory Superior MIS
inks.
- Posted by Frank on December 22nd, 2006
Lee C. Carpenter wrote:
....I have always used Canon OEM Factory Superior Ink instead of the
crappy headclogging generic garbage.
There is no such thing as "Canon OEM Factory Superior Ink".
There is also no such thing as "crappy headclogging generic garbage".
I bet that lie came not from you Lee, but from our ignorant asshole
idiot troll, meashershithead. He's a known liar. He's also mentally
deranged, very stupid and a real jerk.
Ignore him.
The facts:
There is Canon oem ink and it's very expensive.
There is also extremely high quality after market ink made specifically
for specific model canon printers that is very reasonably priced that
will product outstanding results and will not clog or damage your
printer. Case in point, Hobbicolors.
I know, cause I've been using after market inks for over a decade.
Meashershithead has never ever used after market inks.
He's nothing but a lying fuckwit bullshitter.
Frank
- Posted by Lee C. Carpenter on December 22nd, 2006
"phreak" <newsposter@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1166810854.621302.243800@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
Heat - 65-80 deg 40-60% humidity
I keep Photo paper sealed/resealed in original Canon sleeves. Regular paper
pack is opened at one end until placed in autofeeder tray.
- Posted by Lee C. Carpenter on December 22nd, 2006
You're right, I just said "Canon Ink".
- Posted by Dan G on December 22nd, 2006
Chances are good that it's your ink. I'd use a set of cleaning tanks and
clear all the ink out of it. Then install a set of Canon tanks (just to test
and see). If the problem still persists, then you know it's not the inks.
Compatible ink tank sellers often change suppliers without telling anyone,
which is partly why I always refill using bulk ink that I know the maker of.
"Wayne Maruna" <wamaruna@cox.net> wrote in message
news:J9Sih.14207$a14.2146@newsfe24.lga...
- Posted by Tony on December 23rd, 2006
"Wayne Maruna" <wamaruna@cox.net> wrote:
It could be the ink, not all compatible inks are good but many are (especially
the ones provided by quality established brands).
Are you using Canon Photo paper? Some inks and papers are simply incompatible
and can produce absolutely horrible results. If you are using non Canon paper,
buy a small quantity of the Canon paper and try that before you go to the
expense of complete ink replacement.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
- Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2006
Lee C. Carpenter wrote:
My IP4000 is going strong. Never replaced printhead. Never did a cleaning. You ask how. I have always used Canon OEM Factory Superior Ink instead of the crappy headclogging generic garbage.
My i900D is having the same problem as Wayne's IP4000 and I've never used anything but Canon Inks.
We are talking about a Canon IP4000
- Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2006
I am sure there is no air. He probably prints under water. Real hi
humidity
phreak wrote:
- Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2006
Dan G wrote:
Chances are good that it's your ink. I'd use a set of cleaning tanks and clear all the ink out of it. Then install a set of Canon tanks
Oh Yeah
(just to test and see). If the problem still persists, then you know it's not the inks.
That may not be true and I said may. The crap ink could have ruined the printhead beyond repair.
Compatible ink tank sellers often change suppliers without telling anyone,
Right On
which is partly why I always refill using bulk ink that I know the maker of.
Thats what you think
"Wayne Maruna" <wamaruna@cox.net> wrote in message news:J9Sih.14207$a14.2146@newsfe24.lga...
Printer is about a year and a half old. Print head was replaced about 6 months ago. Using generic ink tanks. Normal printing is fine. The issue is when printing photos, or anything on glossy paper settings. If I set
the
printer settings to use standard quality printing and standard paper, the output is very good. But if I set the paper for photo glossy, or even if
I
just set for high quality print, output is terrible. It's like it over-doses on yellows and reds. The ink nozzles are not clogged,
alignment
is OK, ink cartridges are in the correct order, cleaning and deep cleaning were done and all those test out just fine. It is like there is a problem with the printer driver for high quality. The machine used to print jaw-dropping photos. I emailed Canon and got back the usual boilerplate, and of course they always ask if I am using Canon ink. Well, no, but I could tell them I do. But even if I do that, they will likely just walk
me
through the cleaning and alignment again, because that is what they are trained to do. For normal output, the printer works fine. And I can
print
a photo onto matte photo paper using standard quality and papr settings
and
the output is near perfect. But if I select glossy, or high quality
print,
weird output ensues. Any ideas out there, other than switch to Canon ink, which I doubt will make a difference.
- Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2006
Tony wrote:
"Wayne Maruna" <wamaruna@cox.net> wrote:
Printer is about a year and a half old. Print head was replaced about 6 months ago. Using generic ink tanks. Normal printing is fine. The issue is when printing photos, or anything on glossy paper settings. If I set the printer settings to use standard quality printing and standard paper, the output is very good. But if I set the paper for photo glossy, or even if I just set for high quality print, output is terrible. It's like it over-doses on yellows and reds. The ink nozzles are not clogged, alignment is OK, ink cartridges are in the correct order, cleaning and deep cleaning were done and all those test out just fine. It is like there is a problem with the printer driver for high quality. The machine used to print jaw-dropping photos. I emailed Canon and got back the usual boilerplate, and of course they always ask if I am using Canon ink. Well, no, but I could tell them I do. But even if I do that, they will likely just walk me through the cleaning and alignment again, because that is what they are trained to do. For normal output, the printer works fine. And I can print a photo onto matte photo paper using standard quality and papr settings and the output is near perfect. But if I select glossy, or high quality print, weird output ensues. Any ideas out there, other than switch to Canon ink, which I doubt will make a difference.
It could be the ink, not all compatible inks are good
Wow that is a mouthful. And the difficulty is it is almost impossible to tell the good from the bad until you ruin a few printers and there goes the potential savings.
but many are (especially the ones provided by quality established brands).
There are no brands. It is all relabeled and repackaged and you do not know who made it cause the relabelers will not tell you.
Are you using Canon Photo paper? Some inks and papers are simply incompatible and can produce absolutely horrible results. If you are using non Canon paper, buy a small quantity of the Canon paper and try that before you go to the expense of complete ink replacement.
Right and also buy Canon ink and you will not have a problem.
Tony MS MVP Printing/Imaging
- Posted by Michael Johnson on December 23rd, 2006
One thing I noticed in your post is that you said you are using
"generic" ink. I tend to classify generic ink as that which is marketed
as being applicable to a wide variety of prints across differing brands.
These types of ink are nothing but trouble. I use "compatible" ink
which is brand, and many times model, specific. We might help you
better if you stated the exact type of ink you are using.
Wayne Maruna wrote:
- Posted by Taliesyn on December 23rd, 2006
measekite wrote:
My IP4000 is going strong too - and my iP5000 (2 years!). Never
replaced printhead. Never did a manual cleaning (printers do automatic
ones without telling you) except at cartridge change time when it's
necessary to prime the printhead with ink. You ask how. I have always
used Aftermarket/refill ink. So you see, it makes no difference, except
in the wallet at the cash.
-Taliesyn
- Posted by Taliesyn on December 23rd, 2006
Lee C. Carpenter wrote:
You're correct, it's not necessarily the ink you use. There can be many
factors involved in poor quality prints. I had to change a printhead and
the printer after just a month's use, I was getting lines and the paper
feed failed miserably. A year and a half later the replacement printer
and printhead are still working perfectly with aftermarket refill ink.
So you see all is not so cut and dried like Measekite would like you to
believe.
-Taliesyn
- Posted by Taliesyn on December 23rd, 2006
measekite wrote:
How amusing that "Canon OEM Factory Superior Ink" only works on certain
Canon models! :-) I assume this isn't actual advice from a Canon Tech!
-Taliesyn
- Posted by Taliesyn on December 23rd, 2006
measekite wrote:
Printheads do not get "repaired"; only cleaned. Canon puts in 2 cleaning
cycles - "regular" and "deep" for ITS OWN INKS, but it works for refill
inks too (naturally!).
-Taliesyn
- Posted by measekite on December 23rd, 2006
Compatible is a meaning nomenclature. There are two kinds of ink. OEM
or Factory ink is ink that is designed by the mfg of the printer to work
with that particular printer and then there is Non OEM ink called
generic ink.
Michael Johnson wrote: