- Wit-to-whine ratios
- Posted by spinoza1111 on May 8th, 2008
On Apr 24, 5:15*pm, James Dow Allen <jdallen2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry, I don't have an MD (that would be my Pop) or a PhD.
Edward G. Nilges, BA, Ltd (as in liability)
D'oh! You're absolutely right.
This isn't the problem. The problem is the very real bullying and
authoritarianism.
Yes, I received the Bachelor of Arts from Roosevelt University in
1973. Although I play a college professor in the movies (I was an
extra in Ang Lee's movie Lust, Caution: watch for me in one of the
scenes at Hong Kong University, talking with a lovely blonde), and
although I was asked to teach philosophy when I had only the BA, and
have taught at uni level, I simply haven't had the spare time and
money that upper class brats have...to get advanced degrees which they
then don't use because they can't teach.
Your reference to "meds" is rather offensive. This is because I
assisted John Nash at Princeton with C during a time when he was
steadily recovering precisely because he got off "meds", and into a
community, unlike this one, not consisting of normalized deviants.
Navia? Didn't he write a C compiler? And am I perhaps not the only
person to accomplish a thing or two in the real world, only to
encounter a shit storm of abuse from people stealing time from their
employers working as incompetent programmers?
Interesting typeface here in c.l.c. I have committed not to post on
comp.programming until my compiler for the spinoza language is done.
As to why it's late, what part of "Asian six day week or you no eat
Gweilo running dog" don't you chumps understand?
Professor Doctor Extraordinarius-Superfluentiosus Edward G.
spinoza1111 Nilges, Knight-Commander of the Mystic Sea, Licensed
Nubility Tester, Notary Sojak, Certified Programmer (DPMA 1972, so th
- Posted by CBFalconer on May 8th, 2008
spinoza1111 wrote:
Oh hell. He has spread here. One more entry in the PLONK file.
The above, if accurate, means he will never get back to
comp.programming. Obviously Nilges has no control over his
newsreader (see the typeface comment).
--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
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- Posted by James Dow Allen on May 11th, 2008
On May 8, 2:39*pm, spinoza1111 <spinoza1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I apologize. You should realize, however that many of
your posts are *quite* exasperating: long drifting monologues
with, eventually, accusations that posters in these comp groups
have made anti-Semitic remarks! If there really have been such
anti-Semitic remarks, please cite them.
A few days ago, I presented Mr. navia with a simple test puzzle
about a C compiler. He lacked either the competence or the
intellectual curiosity to cope with that problem. "Innocent
until proven guilty" is a good rule, but often the opposite
seems more effective when dealing with some of the blowhards
on Usenet.
And speaking of "offensive", lumping me with "incompetent programmers"
... "stealing time from their employers" is offensive on multiple
grounds.
I'm self-employed; you can estimate my competence from my resume.
I have thirty-two U.S. patents in algorithm design. How many do you
have?
James Dow Allen
- Posted by James Dow Allen on May 11th, 2008
Has anyone noticed how much hypocrisy there is in
some Usenet groups? (As just one example, many
posters celebrate the bug whereby some old news readers
use opening '--' as a discard signal (even though
opening '--' is a common idiom for those of us used
to writing LaTeX input) but refuse to omit trailing
punctuation on URL's, because *their* old-fashioned
newsreaders can't access a URL, whether properly
formatted or not.)
I think Mr. Falconer has killfiled Google Groups
posters in general as well as me personally, and,
although he's admitted his killfilter is defective,
he probably won't see this unless someone else quotes it.
Still, I will respond to him personally.
Chuck Falconer wrote [paraphrased]:
Although Chuck's post has no clear discernible query,
I will assume it's on-topic here and that Chuck needs
help writing a kill-filter program. Please post your
present effort, Chuck; experts here will be happy to help
debug your homework problems, but need you to show
a sincere attempt. To save time, try compiling with
a "-Wall" option and do pursue any warnings the
compiler reports. Include appropriate header files.
Oh ... *don't* use strcpy() -- any good programmer in
these newsgroups will be able to code from scratch, in a
minute or less, a safe version of strcpy() for you.
While I would *never* want to accuse a fellow Usenetter
of posting to the Wrong Group(tm), two other possibilities
did occur to me, other than a request for programming help.
Chuck:
(1) Perhaps you have devoted fans eagerly awaiting news
of all your PLONK decisions -- even the redundant
PLONKs necessitated by your buggy killfilter. In
this case I'm sure you will have no trouble getting enough
votes to start a talk.plonks.falconer. I'll vote for it.
(2) It also occurred to me you might be reaching out
to make a confession, and hope for absolution, either
for the bugs in your killfilter software, or for a
general lack of social grace. To save you the effort
of finding a more appropriate ng (or priest or minister)
for confessions, let me repeat the advice I gave in a
recent thread: Contact a stress-reduction therapist in
your area. If you live near the metropolitan areas of
New York or California, you will have no trouble finding
a therapist who specializes in the sorts of punishment
and absolution therapies you seem to require.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
Interesting that your response occurred in a thread
titled "Wit-to-whine ratio". Perhaps we Scotsmen
have an abnormal sense of humor, but I detected
little or no wit in your post until I edited it
on your behalf. And even ignoring posts by the
Chuckie_B anti-top-posting bot -- over which you
presumably have no control -- I doubt if I'm alone
in finding most of your posts boring or whining.
As just one example, there were several recent messages
in another thread that seemed to debate the relative
merits of "i <= 200000" versus "i < 200001". (Or
was it "i < 200000"? -- I'm afraid epistemology
isn't my strong suit, and I got lost in this deep
philosophical debate.)
I've read many messages by Mr. Falconer over the decades.
The few with semi-technical content are mostly toutings of
The_Hash_library_which_is_better_than_gnu's_hsearc h(tm)
(even for problems where hash tables are inappropriate!).
I guess no one's had the heart to mention to Mr. Falconer
that any high school student who can't write a hash routine
better than gnu's has no future as a programmer.
Chuck? Speaking of
The_Hash_library_which_is_better_than_gnu's_hsearc h(tm)
I mentioned several years ago that this code foolishly
wastes time with an inane and unnecessary division on
*every* reprobe! Have you fixed this bug yet?
(Obviously accuracy is more important than efficiency,
but if you can't find an easy safe alternative to that
division ... well, let's not resort to abusive language.)
James Dow Allen
PS: Several posters in these groups seem to have memorized
a few platitudes which they trot out on all occasions;
that's why I avoided a round of rejoinders by including
the "accuracy is more important than efficiency" truism
above. I think it was Chuck himself who recently deprecated
a suggested beginner's test program fragment:
(In a recent thread in another group, a student was asking
about worst-case inputs for QuickSort, and someone recommended
a *code profiler* to understand why one input set was slower
than another! Perhaps this was the same guy who responded
"Use a profiler to see if DCT speed matters" when someone
queried abut speeding up the transform code inside JPEG.)
- Posted by CBFalconer on May 11th, 2008
James Dow Allen wrote:
I never wrote anything of the sort. JDA seems to have become a
pure troll. His further posts will be treated accordingly.
--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.
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- Posted by Default User on May 11th, 2008
James Dow Allen wrote:
*plonk*
Brian
- Posted by Eligiusz Narutowicz on May 11th, 2008
"Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> writes:
Why you telling us of this? Please do not pollute the groups further.
- Posted by spinoza1111 on May 11th, 2008
On May 11, 6:06*pm, James Dow Allen <jdallen2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're possibly thinking of something I do claim, which is that people
with unexamined racism and anti-Semitism, too polite to express their
real feelings, play computer "games" in which they permit themselves
to use grammar almost isomorphic to that of racism and anti-semitism.
For example, although the word "troll" means an anonymous poster
posting insincere opinions with intent to disrupt, it is regularly
used here to refer to sincere posters advocating minority or *sui
generis* positions, or claiming and displaying competence above the
low norm. Anti-troll flames, as I have shown, can be transformed by
simple steps to texts worthy of Mein Kampf.
Shakespeare discussion group to lower the hostility of the group.
However, programmers like to play stupid games, such as Heathfield
played when he confused && and || on a test, so my guess is that Mr
Navia was ignoring you. Furthermore, nobody seems to be claiming that
he didn't "create" a C compiler, which takes far more chops than
solving stupid puzzles.
Perhaps you shouldn't throw swine before pearls?
I have diddly squat. How many books have you published? Here my score
resembles Association Football's typical score: me one you nil (I
checked Amazon). More important, how about you stop playing games?
Strictly in response to personal attack initiation and in defense of
and solidarity with others, I'm the foot massage master when it comes
to personal attacks. You'll be a parking lot in no time, son, so don't
mess with me.
- Posted by Richard Tobin on May 11th, 2008
In article <7cd9e193-8d0c-4da8-a511-8a904f349ba2@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hypocrisy is under-rated. At least a hypocrite is likely to be
right half the time.
-- Richard
--
:wq
- Posted by Mike on May 12th, 2008
In article <fb65b8c0-6927-48ca-b301-7cf72851b80e@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, spinoza1111@yahoo.com says...
posters claim that _you_ are a troll. Your arguments are so forthright, so blatant, so passionately reiterated, so
unequivocably wrong, so unbalanced and out-of-balance, that many believe they could not be the output of a being both
sentient and sensible. As a result they conclude, rightly or wrongly, that that these arguments are devised and posted
meerly to provoke. If they are right in their conclusions, then you are indeed a troll, if they are wrong, I believe it
more plausibly reflects on the style and content of your postings than it does on any racist or anti-Semitic tendancies
(examined or unexamined) of these posters.
Mike
- Posted by spinoza1111 on May 12th, 2008
On May 12, 10:21*am, Mike <m.fee@iirrll..ccrrii..nnzz> wrote:
Mike, I need also to reply to you, since yours was a thoughtful post,
if filled with the usual dull hatred we see in these groups. The only
register in which you are at all serious is when you are saying
something hateful such as the above, therefore this is gonna hurt.
I'm afraid, Mike, that you've based your entire argument on an
incorrect premise. Because work in the corporation, in any standing,
requires continual anger management because the fiduciary job of the
corporation is to expropriate its employees, you've been socialized to
scan documents without parsing them, like the first phase of a
compiler.
When you read my posts, I believe, you are alarmed, reasonably enough,
by a diversity of reference and vocabulary which is the first
statistical feature you notice in your "scan". You're also alarmed by
a quantitative and qualitative difference between my texts and most
posts. There are more verbs and subordinating words in sentences and
sentences are longer.
Since another corporate meme or mood is a constant artificial urgency
and time famine, it's at this point you realize that you'd better get
back to work, so you hit a button you've mislabeled "troll", using it
isomorphic to "jew" or "n*r".
"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who
posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an
online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room,
with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional
response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."
I'd add to this wikipedia definition the fact of anonymity which was
an important feature of the earlier usage.
The key is insincerity: in the wikipedia definition, the troll trolls
TO get a response. But my goal is to get to agreement to certain
propositions, such as "C is an outdated language" and "programming is
political".
I'm not a troll. Instead, I've a wider view which unlike the
executive's big picture takes account of the details, and this
normalization of subjectivity versus objectivity, which reverses their
(incorrect) exchange such that today "objectivity" means being
superficial and rule-driven so as to replicate the "subjectivity" of
power. As such, I've been called unique, sui generis, along with a lot
of other far worse names.
I really must sign off. You people aren't worth committments,
therefore my committments are not to you but just time management on
my part.
Edward G. Nilges
- Posted by pete on May 12th, 2008
Mike wrote:
YHBT YHL HAND
--
pete
- Posted by santosh on May 12th, 2008
pete wrote:
Do acronyms excuse the omission of punctuations?
- Posted by Colonel Sanders on May 13th, 2008
On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:40:10 -0700 (PDT), spinoza1111
<spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nilge's logic:
1) Nazis say: Jews are scum
2) You say: Trolls are scum.
Therefore:
3) You are a Nazi.
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- Posted by Mike on May 13th, 2008
In article <04211b75-828e-4d81-bc83-9a71efb870e9@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, spinoza1111@yahoo.com says...
remained focused on the quality and style of your contributions to this news-group and how they might influence and
affect other contributers' opinions of you.
Note in comparison, how you make unsubstantiated and unsupportable claims regarding my emotional state, the motivations
behind my post, my job history, and my ability (or lack thereof) to parse your prose.
Mike
- Posted by spinoza1111 on May 18th, 2008
On May 13, 12:54*pm, Colonel Sanders <colo...@kfc.com> wrote:
Much of technical education consists of careful moronization. There is
of course a view that the Holocaust was a Jewish and theological event
with an apparently metaphysical cause. If this view is correct, it's
blasphemy to say, not "because Nazis said Jews are scum, and you say
trolls must die, you're a Nazi" (a moronic re-presentation of what I
said, of course).
But most historians, including Shirer and Arendt, don't treat the
Holocaust in this way. Instead, they view it as emergent from the
microbehavior of the clerical and technical lower middle class under
stress.
Education below a certain level is education in reverse, for the same
reason mass media is psychoanalysis in reverse.
What sort of English class do most pre-wealth majors get at cow and
technical colleges? Usually, some part-time adjunct flounces in and
reveals that the students must learn a set of magic formulae that will
guarantee, without any nonsense, their admission to the ranks of the
employable, such as "simple" writing.
The underlying message is that all relations are isomorphic to the
cash nexus and can be reduced to identity. For example, you're a Jew
or a member of a national community.
In other words, Harlan, crack a book on your break at Kentucky Fried.
- Posted by Colonel Sanders on May 19th, 2008
On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT), spinoza1111
<spinoza1111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nilges logic, part 2:
I went to Princeton. You went to a cow college. Therefore, you are
wrong. And a moron. And a Nazi.
(Funnily enough, I actually graduated from a quite prestigious
university. And not that I care to provide details, but exactly zero
percent of your wildly imaginative assertions about me are correct.)
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