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Re: can't run pgms as Lowly User
Posted by Laurie on October 8th, 2005



"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%231vTQRIwFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Laurie wrote:
>> When installing pgms as Admin (per M$ security protocol),
>> frequently, the pgm will not run as Lowly User. This is one of those
>> 'permissions' things. How to allow Lowly User to run these pgms?
>> I'd also like to be able to see the calendar in the sysclock; how
>> to do this?

>
> File and Directory and Registry permissions.
> Also some things can be fixed by local policies.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP

==========
Why are you masquerading as a valuable something, when this is your
best?
What am I supposed to do? Chant your "response" three times and light a
candle?
I have already identified this continually-annoying issue as a
'permissions' thing created by yet-another M$ "upgrade" that is really a
downgrade in performance. What I would like to do is actually SOLVE the
problem. Thus, I need specific, step-by-step instructions on how to allow
Lowly User to use these pgms. Know anyone who could help??
HINT: "permissions" is not in the Help docs.

Laurie


Posted by Bruce Chambers on October 9th, 2005


Laurie wrote:

> Why are you masquerading as a valuable something, when this is your
> best?
> What am I supposed to do? Chant your "response" three times and light a
> candle?



Shehan was apparently presuming that you were an adult and needed only
a hint to be pointed in the correct direction, in order to help
yourself. It would appear that he grossly over-estimated your level of
maturity.


> I have already identified this continually-annoying issue as a
> 'permissions' thing created by yet-another M$ "upgrade" that is really a
> downgrade in performance.



Actually, the "problem" is created by *your* choosing to use
applications that are not fully compatible with the OS. This is hardly
Microsoft's fault.


> What I would like to do is actually SOLVE the
> problem. Thus, I need specific, step-by-step instructions on how to allow
> Lowly User to use these pgms. Know anyone who could help??
> HINT: "permissions" is not in the Help docs.
>




You may experience some problems if the software was designed for
Win9x/Me, or if it was intended for WinNT/2K/XP, but was improperly
designed. Quite simply, the application doesn't "know" how to handle
individual user profiles with differing security permissions levels, or
the application is designed to make to make changes to "off-limits"
sections of the Windows registry or protected Windows system folders.

For example, saved data are often stored in a sub-folder under the
application's folder within C:\Program Files - a place where no
inexperienced or limited user should ever have write permissions.

It may even be that the software requires "write" access to parts
of the registry or protected systems folders/files that are not normally
accessible to regular users. (This *won't* occur if the application is
properly written.) If this does prove to be the case, however, you're
often left with three options: Either grant the necessary users
appropriate higher access privileges (either as Power Users or local
administrators), explicitly grant normal users elevated privileges to
the affected folders and/or part(s) or the registry, or replace the
application with one that was properly designed specifically for
WinNT/2K/XP.

Some Programs Do Not Work If You Log On from Limited Account
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q307091

Additionally, here are a couple of tips suggested, in a reply to a
different post, by MS-MVP Kent W. England:

"If your game or application works with admin accounts, but not with
limited accounts, you can fix it to allow limited users to access the
program files folder with "change" capability rather than "read" which
is the default.

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:c

where "appfolder" is the folder where the application is installed.

If you wish to undo these changes, then run

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:r

If you still have a problem with running the program or saving
settings on limited accounts, you may need to change permissions on
the registry keys. Run regedit.exe and go to HKLM\Software\vendor\app,
where "vendor\app" is the key that the software vendor used for your
specific program. Change the permissions on this key to allow Users
full control."


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Bruce Chambers

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Posted by Shenan Stanley on October 9th, 2005


Laurie wrote:
> Why are you masquerading as a valuable something, when this is your
> best?
>
> What am I supposed to do? Chant your "response" three times and
> light a candle?


Oops. My bad.
Assumed you had some sort of capabilities to search for answers and figure
things out once given a hint/push in the right direction.

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on October 10th, 2005




In news:11d79$43485407$9440bc97$581@STARBAND.NET,
Laurie <no@spam.com> typed:

<snip>

> Why are you masquerading as a valuable something, when this is your
> best?


Ouch.

> What am I supposed to do? Chant your "response" three times and
> light a candle?


Precisely so! You've got it. Did it help?

> I have already identified this continually-annoying issue as a
> 'permissions' thing created by yet-another M$ "upgrade" that is
> really a downgrade in performance. What I would like to do is
> actually SOLVE the problem. Thus, I need specific, step-by-step
> instructions on how to allow Lowly User to use these pgms. Know
> anyone who could help?? HINT: "permissions" is not in the Help
> docs.
> Laurie


Tsk tsk tsk. Remember to play nice with the other kids when you're asking
for free tech support from volunteers.

I'd also suggest that you avoid "M$" - it's a construction favored mostly by
surly teenagers. As is abbreviating short words like "programs" when fully
spelling out "masquerading" ...there's no character limit in usenet as there
is in SMS. ;-)

Pax!



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