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Dual boot problem
Posted by baxter on January 4th, 2006


My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP. I did this by installing WinXP
after Win 98. I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP. Win98 is in 'C
drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'. Both are separate disk drive. Now my 'C
drive' has crash(dead, not acessable). I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C
drive' from IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as primary disk but
still cannot boot. Now I don't want dual boot anymore. I just want boot from
the 'D drive'. Can anyone help? I don't need Win98 anymore.

Posted by Timothy Daniels on January 4th, 2006


"baxter" wrote:
> My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
> I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
> I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
> Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
> Both are separate disk drive.
> Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
> I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
> IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
> primary disk but still cannot boot.
> Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
> I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
> I don't need Win98 anymore.


Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
CD and its Repair Console:

1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
3. Execute these commands:
fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
exit (to reboot the machine)

*TimDaniels*

Posted by baxter on January 8th, 2006


I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing. Press any key to
continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir
of c:, I get the same message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
appear.

"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

> "baxter" wrote:
> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
> > Both are separate disk drive.
> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
> > I don't need Win98 anymore.

>
> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
> CD and its Repair Console:
>
> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
> 3. Execute these commands:
> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
> exit (to reboot the machine)
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
>

Posted by Timothy Daniels on January 8th, 2006


Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
extended partition?

How is the weather on Pluto?

*TimDaniels*


"baxter" wrote:
> I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
> Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
> and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
> message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
> appear.
>
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>
>> "baxter" wrote:
>> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
>> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
>> > Both are separate disk drive.
>> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
>> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
>> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
>> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
>> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
>> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
>> > I don't need Win98 anymore.

>>
>> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
>> CD and its Repair Console:
>>
>> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
>> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
>> 3. Execute these commands:
>> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
>> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
>> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
>> exit (to reboot the machine)
>>
>> *TimDaniels*
>>
>>

Posted by baxter on January 8th, 2006


Yes. My only have 1 partition in the harddisk. Which directory is ntldr and
ntdetect suppose to be at? Initially I think there are ntdetect & ntldr in
c:\windows\$NtServicePackUninstall$ and c:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386. Now
I can this 2 files at c:\windows, c:\windows\driver cache\i386 and the above
2 directories but still cannot boot.

"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

> Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
> extended partition?
>
> How is the weather on Pluto?
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
>
> "baxter" wrote:
> > I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
> > Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
> > and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
> > message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
> > appear.
> >
> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >
> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
> >> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
> >> > Both are separate disk drive.
> >> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
> >> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
> >> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
> >> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
> >> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
> >> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
> >> > I don't need Win98 anymore.
> >>
> >> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
> >> CD and its Repair Console:
> >>
> >> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
> >> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
> >> 3. Execute these commands:
> >> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
> >> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
> >> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
> >> exit (to reboot the machine)
> >>
> >> *TimDaniels*
> >>
> >>

>

Posted by Timothy Daniels on January 8th, 2006


Yes, what? Primary or extended?
You can tell by using Disk Management:
Rt-clk My Computer/clk Manage/
clk Disk Management.
Primary partitions have a black band
above them.
Extended partitions have a blue band
above them.

If your D: partition is a logical drive in
an extended partition, it can be loaded
by the loader in another partition that is
a primary partition, but a logical drive
cannot boot itself. All self-bootable
partitions must be primary partitions.

*TimDaniels*

"baxter" wrote:
> Yes. My only have 1 partition in the harddisk. Which
> directory is ntldr and ntdetect suppose to be at?
> Initially I think there are ntdetect & ntldr in
> c:\windows\$NtServicePackUninstall$
> and c:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386.
> Now I can this 2 files at c:\windows,
>c:\windows\driver cache\i386 and the above
> 2 directories but still cannot boot.
>
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>
>> Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
>> extended partition?
>>
>> How is the weather on Pluto?
>>
>> *TimDaniels*
>>
>>
>> "baxter" wrote:
>> > I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
>> > Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
>> > and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
>> > message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
>> > appear.
>> >
>> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "baxter" wrote:
>> >> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> >> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
>> >> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> >> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
>> >> > Both are separate disk drive.
>> >> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
>> >> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
>> >> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
>> >> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
>> >> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
>> >> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
>> >> > I don't need Win98 anymore.
>> >>
>> >> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
>> >> CD and its Repair Console:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
>> >> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
>> >> 3. Execute these commands:
>> >> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
>> >> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
>> >> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
>> >> exit (to reboot the machine)
>> >>
>> >> *TimDaniels*
>> >>
>> >>

>>

Posted by baxter on January 10th, 2006


Since I cannot boot with this harddisk, I attached it to another running PC
as slave at ide cable. It have blue band above. In fact the original disk in
this running PC also blue. I would like to highlight that D: is a separate
drive with no other partition.

"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

> Yes, what? Primary or extended?
> You can tell by using Disk Management:
> Rt-clk My Computer/clk Manage/
> clk Disk Management.
> Primary partitions have a black band
> above them.
> Extended partitions have a blue band
> above them.
>
> If your D: partition is a logical drive in
> an extended partition, it can be loaded
> by the loader in another partition that is
> a primary partition, but a logical drive
> cannot boot itself. All self-bootable
> partitions must be primary partitions.
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
> "baxter" wrote:
> > Yes. My only have 1 partition in the harddisk. Which
> > directory is ntldr and ntdetect suppose to be at?
> > Initially I think there are ntdetect & ntldr in
> > c:\windows\$NtServicePackUninstall$
> > and c:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386.
> > Now I can this 2 files at c:\windows,
> >c:\windows\driver cache\i386 and the above
> > 2 directories but still cannot boot.
> >
> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >
> >> Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
> >> extended partition?
> >>
> >> How is the weather on Pluto?
> >>
> >> *TimDaniels*
> >>
> >>
> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> > I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
> >> > Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
> >> > and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
> >> > message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
> >> > appear.
> >> >
> >> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> >> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> >> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
> >> >> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> >> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
> >> >> > Both are separate disk drive.
> >> >> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
> >> >> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
> >> >> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
> >> >> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
> >> >> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
> >> >> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
> >> >> > I don't need Win98 anymore.
> >> >>
> >> >> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
> >> >> CD and its Repair Console:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
> >> >> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
> >> >> 3. Execute these commands:
> >> >> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
> >> >> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
> >> >> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
> >> >> exit (to reboot the machine)
> >> >>
> >> >> *TimDaniels*
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

>

Posted by Timothy Daniels on January 11th, 2006


If it is indeed a blue band (sometimes black looks like blue),
that is the problem - the D: Local Disk is in an extended
partition, not a primary partition. But if the partition that does
the booting in your test PC also has a blue band, it suggests
that you are not seeing a blue band because neither
partition should have been able to boot itself or to boot
another partition. So I really don't know what is going on
with your computer system. It is possible to convert an
extended partition into a primary partition, and Partition Magic
is a utility program that can do that, but I have never used that
feature. But in the absence of any new information, I'm afraid
that I cannot help you any further.

*TimDaniels*


"baxter" wrote:
> Since I cannot boot with this harddisk, I attached it to another
> running PC as slave at ide cable. It have blue band above. In
> fact the original disk in this running PC also blue. I would like
> to highlight that D: is a separate drive with no other partition.
>
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>
>> Yes, what? Primary or extended?
>> You can tell by using Disk Management:
>> Rt-clk My Computer/clk Manage/
>> clk Disk Management.
>> Primary partitions have a black band
>> above them.
>> Extended partitions have a blue band
>> above them.
>>
>> If your D: partition is a logical drive in
>> an extended partition, it can be loaded
>> by the loader in another partition that is
>> a primary partition, but a logical drive
>> cannot boot itself. All self-bootable
>> partitions must be primary partitions.
>>
>> *TimDaniels*
>>
>> "baxter" wrote:
>> > Yes. My only have 1 partition in the harddisk. Which
>> > directory is ntldr and ntdetect suppose to be at?
>> > Initially I think there are ntdetect & ntldr in
>> > c:\windows\$NtServicePackUninstall$
>> > and c:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386.
>> > Now I can this 2 files at c:\windows,
>> >c:\windows\driver cache\i386 and the above
>> > 2 directories but still cannot boot.
>> >
>> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
>> >> extended partition?
>> >>
>> >> How is the weather on Pluto?
>> >>
>> >> *TimDaniels*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "baxter" wrote:
>> >> > I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
>> >> > Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
>> >> > and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
>> >> > message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
>> >> > appear.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "baxter" wrote:
>> >> >> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> >> >> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
>> >> >> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
>> >> >> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
>> >> >> > Both are separate disk drive.
>> >> >> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
>> >> >> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
>> >> >> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
>> >> >> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
>> >> >> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
>> >> >> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
>> >> >> > I don't need Win98 anymore.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
>> >> >> CD and its Repair Console:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
>> >> >> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
>> >> >> 3. Execute these commands:
>> >> >> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
>> >> >> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
>> >> >> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
>> >> >> exit (to reboot the machine)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *TimDaniels*
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>

>>

Posted by baxter on January 12th, 2006


Sorry I make a mistake here. It is black. I checked my notebook and now I can
differentiate it. Cos my notebook has a mobile harddisk, it is in
blue(lighter color).

"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

> If it is indeed a blue band (sometimes black looks like blue),
> that is the problem - the D: Local Disk is in an extended
> partition, not a primary partition. But if the partition that does
> the booting in your test PC also has a blue band, it suggests
> that you are not seeing a blue band because neither
> partition should have been able to boot itself or to boot
> another partition. So I really don't know what is going on
> with your computer system. It is possible to convert an
> extended partition into a primary partition, and Partition Magic
> is a utility program that can do that, but I have never used that
> feature. But in the absence of any new information, I'm afraid
> that I cannot help you any further.
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
>
> "baxter" wrote:
> > Since I cannot boot with this harddisk, I attached it to another
> > running PC as slave at ide cable. It have blue band above. In
> > fact the original disk in this running PC also blue. I would like
> > to highlight that D: is a separate drive with no other partition.
> >
> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, what? Primary or extended?
> >> You can tell by using Disk Management:
> >> Rt-clk My Computer/clk Manage/
> >> clk Disk Management.
> >> Primary partitions have a black band
> >> above them.
> >> Extended partitions have a blue band
> >> above them.
> >>
> >> If your D: partition is a logical drive in
> >> an extended partition, it can be loaded
> >> by the loader in another partition that is
> >> a primary partition, but a logical drive
> >> cannot boot itself. All self-bootable
> >> partitions must be primary partitions.
> >>
> >> *TimDaniels*
> >>
> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> > Yes. My only have 1 partition in the harddisk. Which
> >> > directory is ntldr and ntdetect suppose to be at?
> >> > Initially I think there are ntdetect & ntldr in
> >> > c:\windows\$NtServicePackUninstall$
> >> > and c:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386.
> >> > Now I can this 2 files at c:\windows,
> >> >c:\windows\driver cache\i386 and the above
> >> > 2 directories but still cannot boot.
> >> >
> >> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is the Windows XP in a primary partition or an
> >> >> extended partition?
> >> >>
> >> >> How is the weather on Pluto?
> >> >>
> >> >> *TimDaniels*
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> >> > I did as said but when reboot it show 'NTLDR is missing.
> >> >> > Press any key to continue'. I accidentally copy ntdetect
> >> >> > and ntldr from WinXP cd to root dir of c:, I get the same
> >> >> > message and later to c:\i386 but still same message
> >> >> > appear.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "baxter" wrote:
> >> >> >> > My PC was configure to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> >> >> > I did this by installing WinXP after Win 98.
> >> >> >> > I am able to select to boot from Win98 or XP.
> >> >> >> > Win98 is in 'C drive' and WinXP is in 'D drive'.
> >> >> >> > Both are separate disk drive.
> >> >> >> > Now my 'C drive' has crash(dead, not acessable).
> >> >> >> > I am not able to boot. I disconnect 'C drive' from
> >> >> >> > IDE cable and reconnect 'D drive'(with XP) as
> >> >> >> > primary disk but still cannot boot.
> >> >> >> > Now I don't want dual boot anymore.
> >> >> >> > I just want boot from the 'D drive'. Can anyone help?
> >> >> >> > I don't need Win98 anymore.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Try Pegasus' advice and use the WinXP installation
> >> >> >> CD and its Repair Console:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1. Boot the machine with your WinXP CD.
> >> >> >> 2. Select Repair, then Recovery Console.
> >> >> >> 3. Execute these commands:
> >> >> >> fixboot (to create a WinXP boot sector)
> >> >> >> fixmbr (to create a WinXP Master Boot Record)
> >> >> >> bootcfg /rebuild (to create a new version of D:\boot.ini)
> >> >> >> exit (to reboot the machine)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *TimDaniels*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

>


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