Dear Pegasus,

I come back to this thread, because I eventually got a series of problems
with my attempts of giving a new user (test2) an environment similar to a
test1 user. I could not come earlier to this forum becasue I was travelling.


I followed your suggestions (configuring the test1 user as I wished,
rebooting the machine, logging as an Administrator [different from test1
user], and copying the profile of the test1 user to the "default user" by My
computer -> properties -> Advanced -> User profile and there copying the
user "basic" to "default".

However, the copy failed after a few files with the message that there was a
permission violation. If I repeat the procedure, I got also a failure, but
with a different message and about a different file... So it seems that the
copying process is unable to go to completion.

The trouble is that
(a) the default user was *apparently* not changed, in the sense that when
creating a new user (say test2), its environment is *not* that of test1 but
looks like the one one gets when creating a new user normally ...
(b) however, some subtle differences existed, among one which was
particularly annoying and which is that the keyboard and thhe "International"
environment of the newly created user (test2) was no longer the keyboard
(Belgian French) and the International environment (Belgian French with euro
currency) of test1 or of the Administrator, but a US keyboard and a US
environment... I could correct the keyboard (by deleting the US keyboard and
adding a Belgian French keyboard, but I could *not* change the International
Environment (it always reverted to the US environment). The only way I was
able to retrieve a normal basic configuration for keyboard International
environment when creating a new user was to make a repair of Windows.

So, my questions, if I may ask them, is
- what has prevented the Default User to correctly acquire the configuration
of test1 ?
- alternatively, is there any other mean to obtain the effect I am looking
for (i.e. have test2 having a similar environment of test1 without having to
make all the configuration manually ?

Kind regards,

-------------------------------------------------------------------

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> The User#2 profile is probably greyed out because you did
> not reboot after using that account, as per the first step in
> my original response.
>
> Copying profiles manually is possible but may fail to copy hidden
> or locked files. You should use the inbuilt method.
>
>
> "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A1752785-43BF-49FA-AE09-E2FDFC2959D9@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Pegasus,
> > Thank you for your fast reply (see copy hereunder). I tried what you
> > suggested, but the only profile I can copy is that of "Administrator" (the
> > machine I am experimenting with has 3 profiles: "Administrator"; "User#1"
> > with administrator's priviledges; and "User#2" with user's priviledges.
> It
> > is "User#2" that I want to clone. The "Copy" button is greyed when I
> select
> > that profile. Now, from what you write, I wonder if I may not simply copy
> > all files in "C:\Documents and Settings\User#2" to "C:\Documenst and
> > Settings\Default User" (thus, overwriting the properties of the basic
> > "Default User"). Then, indeed, the Default User should have the same
> > configuration as User#2 ... Would that work or would I have problems with
> > identities ?
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > - Reboot the machine.
> > > - Log on under an account other than your "Typical" account.
> > > - Go to Control Panel / System / Advanced / User Profiles
> > > - Use the "Copy" button to copy the "Typical" account
> > > to the hidden folder "c:\documents and settings\default user".
> > >
> > > Every account you create from now on will have the properties
> > > of he "Typical" account.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Your problem is probably caused by an inappropriate permission
structure in the Default User folder, or by your admin account
having insufficient access rights to that folder. Unless you get
your NTFS permissions right, you're wasting your time when
attempting to copy profiles. There is absolutely no point in
testing the Default User profile if errors are reported during
the copy process.


"Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C2109F9A-754D-4C7E-99CF-666F741FACA0@microsoft.com...
> Dear Pegasus,
>
> I come back to this thread, because I eventually got a series of problems
> with my attempts of giving a new user (test2) an environment similar to a
> test1 user. I could not come earlier to this forum becasue I was
travelling.
>
>
> I followed your suggestions (configuring the test1 user as I wished,
> rebooting the machine, logging as an Administrator [different from test1
> user], and copying the profile of the test1 user to the "default user" by
My
> computer -> properties -> Advanced -> User profile and there copying the
> user "basic" to "default".
>
> However, the copy failed after a few files with the message that there was
a
> permission violation. If I repeat the procedure, I got also a failure,
but
> with a different message and about a different file... So it seems that
the
> copying process is unable to go to completion.
>
> The trouble is that
> (a) the default user was *apparently* not changed, in the sense that when
> creating a new user (say test2), its environment is *not* that of test1
but
> looks like the one one gets when creating a new user normally ...
> (b) however, some subtle differences existed, among one which was
> particularly annoying and which is that the keyboard and thhe
"International"
> environment of the newly created user (test2) was no longer the keyboard
> (Belgian French) and the International environment (Belgian French with
euro
> currency) of test1 or of the Administrator, but a US keyboard and a US
> environment... I could correct the keyboard (by deleting the US keyboard
and
> adding a Belgian French keyboard, but I could *not* change the
International
> Environment (it always reverted to the US environment). The only way I
was
> able to retrieve a normal basic configuration for keyboard International
> environment when creating a new user was to make a repair of Windows.
>
> So, my questions, if I may ask them, is
> - what has prevented the Default User to correctly acquire the
configuration
> of test1 ?
> - alternatively, is there any other mean to obtain the effect I am looking
> for (i.e. have test2 having a similar environment of test1 without having
to
> make all the configuration manually ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> > The User#2 profile is probably greyed out because you did
> > not reboot after using that account, as per the first step in
> > my original response.
> >
> > Copying profiles manually is possible but may fail to copy hidden
> > or locked files. You should use the inbuilt method.
> >
> >
> > "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > news:A1752785-43BF-49FA-AE09-E2FDFC2959D9@microsoft.com...
> > > Dear Pegasus,
> > > Thank you for your fast reply (see copy hereunder). I tried what you
> > > suggested, but the only profile I can copy is that of "Administrator"
(the
> > > machine I am experimenting with has 3 profiles: "Administrator";
"User#1"
> > > with administrator's priviledges; and "User#2" with user's
priviledges.
> > It
> > > is "User#2" that I want to clone. The "Copy" button is greyed when I
> > select
> > > that profile. Now, from what you write, I wonder if I may not simply
copy
> > > all files in "C:\Documents and Settings\User#2" to "C:\Documenst and
> > > Settings\Default User" (thus, overwriting the properties of the basic
> > > "Default User"). Then, indeed, the Default User should have the same
> > > configuration as User#2 ... Would that work or would I have problems
with
> > > identities ?
> > >
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Reboot the machine.
> > > > - Log on under an account other than your "Typical" account.
> > > > - Go to Control Panel / System / Advanced / User Profiles
> > > > - Use the "Copy" button to copy the "Typical" account
> > > > to the hidden folder "c:\documents and settings\default user".
> > > >
> > > > Every account you create from now on will have the properties
> > > > of he "Typical" account.

Thank you for your reply. What you say is indeed was I gessed, but my
question is how to correct this ? My computer runs with the "Simple file
sharing" mode, so that there is not a lot of permissions I can give or deny.
The account under which I tried to make the copy of the ssttings of test1 to
the Default User has administrative rights. Are you suggesting that I should
uncheck the "Simple flile sharing" and give manually permissions to the
Administrator to each folder in the "Documents and Settings" of test1 ?
Kind regards,
Paul.

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Your problem is probably caused by an inappropriate permission
> structure in the Default User folder, or by your admin account
> having insufficient access rights to that folder. Unless you get
> your NTFS permissions right, you're wasting your time when
> attempting to copy profiles. There is absolutely no point in
> testing the Default User profile if errors are reported during
> the copy process.
>
>
> "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C2109F9A-754D-4C7E-99CF-666F741FACA0@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Pegasus,
> >
> > I come back to this thread, because I eventually got a series of problems
> > with my attempts of giving a new user (test2) an environment similar to a
> > test1 user. I could not come earlier to this forum becasue I was
> travelling.
> >
> >
> > I followed your suggestions (configuring the test1 user as I wished,
> > rebooting the machine, logging as an Administrator [different from test1
> > user], and copying the profile of the test1 user to the "default user" by
> My
> > computer -> properties -> Advanced -> User profile and there copying the
> > user "basic" to "default".
> >
> > However, the copy failed after a few files with the message that there was
> a
> > permission violation. If I repeat the procedure, I got also a failure,
> but
> > with a different message and about a different file... So it seems that
> the
> > copying process is unable to go to completion.
> >
> > The trouble is that
> > (a) the default user was *apparently* not changed, in the sense that when
> > creating a new user (say test2), its environment is *not* that of test1
> but
> > looks like the one one gets when creating a new user normally ...
> > (b) however, some subtle differences existed, among one which was
> > particularly annoying and which is that the keyboard and thhe
> "International"
> > environment of the newly created user (test2) was no longer the keyboard
> > (Belgian French) and the International environment (Belgian French with
> euro
> > currency) of test1 or of the Administrator, but a US keyboard and a US
> > environment... I could correct the keyboard (by deleting the US keyboard
> and
> > adding a Belgian French keyboard, but I could *not* change the
> International
> > Environment (it always reverted to the US environment). The only way I
> was
> > able to retrieve a normal basic configuration for keyboard International
> > environment when creating a new user was to make a repair of Windows.
> >
> > So, my questions, if I may ask them, is
> > - what has prevented the Default User to correctly acquire the
> configuration
> > of test1 ?
> > - alternatively, is there any other mean to obtain the effect I am looking
> > for (i.e. have test2 having a similar environment of test1 without having
> to
> > make all the configuration manually ?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > > The User#2 profile is probably greyed out because you did
> > > not reboot after using that account, as per the first step in
> > > my original response.
> > >
> > > Copying profiles manually is possible but may fail to copy hidden
> > > or locked files. You should use the inbuilt method.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:A1752785-43BF-49FA-AE09-E2FDFC2959D9@microsoft.com...
> > > > Dear Pegasus,
> > > > Thank you for your fast reply (see copy hereunder). I tried what you
> > > > suggested, but the only profile I can copy is that of "Administrator"
> (the
> > > > machine I am experimenting with has 3 profiles: "Administrator";
> "User#1"
> > > > with administrator's priviledges; and "User#2" with user's
> priviledges.
> > > It
> > > > is "User#2" that I want to clone. The "Copy" button is greyed when I
> > > select
> > > > that profile. Now, from what you write, I wonder if I may not simply
> copy
> > > > all files in "C:\Documents and Settings\User#2" to "C:\Documenst and
> > > > Settings\Default User" (thus, overwriting the properties of the basic
> > > > "Default User"). Then, indeed, the Default User should have the same
> > > > configuration as User#2 ... Would that work or would I have problems
> with
> > > > identities ?
> > > >
> > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Reboot the machine.
> > > > > - Log on under an account other than your "Typical" account.
> > > > > - Go to Control Panel / System / Advanced / User Profiles
> > > > > - Use the "Copy" button to copy the "Typical" account
> > > > > to the hidden folder "c:\documents and settings\default user".
> > > > >
> > > > > Every account you create from now on will have the properties
> > > > > of he "Typical" account.
>
>
>

Yes!

"Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2F2782B-A9AC-4AFF-BB19-97A03DDFC8A2@microsoft.com...
> Thank you for your reply. What you say is indeed was I gessed, but my
> question is how to correct this ? My computer runs with the "Simple file
> sharing" mode, so that there is not a lot of permissions I can give or
deny.
> The account under which I tried to make the copy of the ssttings of test1
to
> the Default User has administrative rights. Are you suggesting that I
should
> uncheck the "Simple flile sharing" and give manually permissions to the
> Administrator to each folder in the "Documents and Settings" of test1 ?
> Kind regards,
> Paul.
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Your problem is probably caused by an inappropriate permission
> > structure in the Default User folder, or by your admin account
> > having insufficient access rights to that folder. Unless you get
> > your NTFS permissions right, you're wasting your time when
> > attempting to copy profiles. There is absolutely no point in
> > testing the Default User profile if errors are reported during
> > the copy process.
> >
> >
> > "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > news:C2109F9A-754D-4C7E-99CF-666F741FACA0@microsoft.com...
> > > Dear Pegasus,
> > >
> > > I come back to this thread, because I eventually got a series of
problems
> > > with my attempts of giving a new user (test2) an environment similar
to a
> > > test1 user. I could not come earlier to this forum becasue I was
> > travelling.
> > >
> > >
> > > I followed your suggestions (configuring the test1 user as I wished,
> > > rebooting the machine, logging as an Administrator [different from
test1
> > > user], and copying the profile of the test1 user to the "default user"
by
> > My
> > > computer -> properties -> Advanced -> User profile and there copying
the
> > > user "basic" to "default".
> > >
> > > However, the copy failed after a few files with the message that there
was
> > a
> > > permission violation. If I repeat the procedure, I got also a
failure,
> > but
> > > with a different message and about a different file... So it seems
that
> > the
> > > copying process is unable to go to completion.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that
> > > (a) the default user was *apparently* not changed, in the sense that
when
> > > creating a new user (say test2), its environment is *not* that of
test1
> > but
> > > looks like the one one gets when creating a new user normally ...
> > > (b) however, some subtle differences existed, among one which was
> > > particularly annoying and which is that the keyboard and thhe
> > "International"
> > > environment of the newly created user (test2) was no longer the
keyboard
> > > (Belgian French) and the International environment (Belgian French
with
> > euro
> > > currency) of test1 or of the Administrator, but a US keyboard and a US
> > > environment... I could correct the keyboard (by deleting the US
keyboard
> > and
> > > adding a Belgian French keyboard, but I could *not* change the
> > International
> > > Environment (it always reverted to the US environment). The only way
I
> > was
> > > able to retrieve a normal basic configuration for keyboard
International
> > > environment when creating a new user was to make a repair of
Windows.
> > >
> > > So, my questions, if I may ask them, is
> > > - what has prevented the Default User to correctly acquire the
> > configuration
> > > of test1 ?
> > > - alternatively, is there any other mean to obtain the effect I am
looking
> > > for (i.e. have test2 having a similar environment of test1 without
having
> > to
> > > make all the configuration manually ?
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The User#2 profile is probably greyed out because you did
> > > > not reboot after using that account, as per the first step in
> > > > my original response.
> > > >
> > > > Copying profiles manually is possible but may fail to copy hidden
> > > > or locked files. You should use the inbuilt method.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Paul (Bornival)" <PaulBornival@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:A1752785-43BF-49FA-AE09-E2FDFC2959D9@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Dear Pegasus,
> > > > > Thank you for your fast reply (see copy hereunder). I tried what
you
> > > > > suggested, but the only profile I can copy is that of
"Administrator"
> > (the
> > > > > machine I am experimenting with has 3 profiles: "Administrator";
> > "User#1"
> > > > > with administrator's priviledges; and "User#2" with user's
> > priviledges.
> > > > It
> > > > > is "User#2" that I want to clone. The "Copy" button is greyed
when I
> > > > select
> > > > > that profile. Now, from what you write, I wonder if I may not
simply
> > copy
> > > > > all files in "C:\Documents and Settings\User#2" to "C:\Documenst
and
> > > > > Settings\Default User" (thus, overwriting the properties of the
basic
> > > > > "Default User"). Then, indeed, the Default User should have the
same
> > > > > configuration as User#2 ... Would that work or would I have
problems
> > with
> > > > > identities ?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Reboot the machine.
> > > > > > - Log on under an account other than your "Typical" account.
> > > > > > - Go to Control Panel / System / Advanced / User Profiles
> > > > > > - Use the "Copy" button to copy the "Typical" account
> > > > > > to the hidden folder "c:\documents and settings\default user".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Every account you create from now on will have the properties
> > > > > > of he "Typical" account.
> >
> >
> >