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Re: Customer/Guest need internet access
Posted by RY on July 8th, 2003


Thanks Chris.

I make a mistake by saying SMTP, I did meant Pop3.

I was hoping to get away of installing the proxy client onto the
customers/guests notebook but I guess that is the only way if they have to
access a pop3 accounts then.

How about when you check-in to a hotel that have internet access, someone
told me you simply plug the lan cable to your notebook, asking few question
and you can browse internet and access your pop3 account without installing
any software, is that correct?

Thanks


"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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The problem the guest are having is when they try to send??? or
receiving???

You mention an SMTP mail client such as OE, but OE is a pop3 mail client.

But basically regardless of what filters you setup, the workstation is gonna
need the firewall client to work.

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"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
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Hi Chris,

Our ADSL is a static connection with one IP address.

Thanks

Ron
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Is your ADSL connection static or dynamic and how many addresses do you
have??

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
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that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
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Thanks for the quick reply Javier.

Just to make sure I understand it correctly...

If I add a POP3 Pre-defined filter in Web Proxy Secruity setting, then user
will not require to install the Procy Client before they can access to their
pop3 accounts. Is this correct?

Currently, regular users can access their own pop3 account as long as they
have the proxy client installed.

Our LAN setup is that our SBS 4.5 has 2 NIC, one to the ADSL modem and the
other to the switches/hubs.

My objective is to make the customer access to internet and their pop3 email
account as easy as poosible.

Thanks


"Javier Minero" <jme@cimex.nospam.com.mx> wrote in message
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Posted by Cris Hanna \(SBS-MVP\) on July 9th, 2003


Yes that is correct concerning the hotel
typically what they have is a router which gets a single "public" IP and then provides private IPs inside the hotel, but do not use a proxy server because they are not trying to protect their lan or monitor where people go, etc.

Hope that helps Now you could conceivably do something similar in your office.
You could install a 4 port router between your internet connection (DSL Modem) and your network card.

assign a static IP to your servers second card to match the range on the inside of the router
assign the static External IP you have been given to External side of the router.

You could then have a network drop somewhere that runs to another port on that router. You would have to configure that laptop with another static ip in that private router range but it would get to the net, bypassing proxy so no software would be required....

Just depends on if you wanna go to that work for "temp" connections

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message news:gOWdnXMf-7uFIpeiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
Thanks Chris.

I make a mistake by saying SMTP, I did meant Pop3.

I was hoping to get away of installing the proxy client onto the
customers/guests notebook but I guess that is the only way if they have to
access a pop3 accounts then.

How about when you check-in to a hotel that have internet access, someone
told me you simply plug the lan cable to your notebook, asking few question
and you can browse internet and access your pop3 account without installing
any software, is that correct?

Thanks


"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23YIDaqNRDHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
The problem the guest are having is when they try to send??? or
receiving???

You mention an SMTP mail client such as OE, but OE is a pop3 mail client.

But basically regardless of what filters you setup, the workstation is gonna
need the firewall client to work.

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so
that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
news:WtmcnWUVwujL6JSiXTWJjg@magma.ca...
Hi Chris,

Our ADSL is a static connection with one IP address.

Thanks

Ron
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O$t3cQpQDHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Is your ADSL connection static or dynamic and how many addresses do you
have??

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so
that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
news:eEOdnfFoWYrnMZiiXTWJjA@magma.ca...
Thanks for the quick reply Javier.

Just to make sure I understand it correctly...

If I add a POP3 Pre-defined filter in Web Proxy Secruity setting, then user
will not require to install the Procy Client before they can access to their
pop3 accounts. Is this correct?

Currently, regular users can access their own pop3 account as long as they
have the proxy client installed.

Our LAN setup is that our SBS 4.5 has 2 NIC, one to the ADSL modem and the
other to the switches/hubs.

My objective is to make the customer access to internet and their pop3 email
account as easy as poosible.

Thanks


"Javier Minero" <jme@cimex.nospam.com.mx> wrote in message
news:eWldXLkQDHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...


Posted by RY on July 9th, 2003


Thanks Chris.
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:el3RUOcRDHA.2480@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Yes that is correct concerning the hotel
typically what they have is a router which gets a single "public" IP and then provides private IPs inside the hotel, but do not use a proxy server because they are not trying to protect their lan or monitor where people go, etc.

Hope that helps Now you could conceivably do something similar in your office.
You could install a 4 port router between your internet connection (DSL Modem) and your network card.

assign a static IP to your servers second card to match the range on the inside of the router
assign the static External IP you have been given to External side of the router.

You could then have a network drop somewhere that runs to another port on that router. You would have to configure that laptop with another static ip in that private router range but it would get to the net, bypassing proxy so no software would be required....

Just depends on if you wanna go to that work for "temp" connections

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message news:gOWdnXMf-7uFIpeiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
Thanks Chris.

I make a mistake by saying SMTP, I did meant Pop3.

I was hoping to get away of installing the proxy client onto the
customers/guests notebook but I guess that is the only way if they have to
access a pop3 accounts then.

How about when you check-in to a hotel that have internet access, someone
told me you simply plug the lan cable to your notebook, asking few question
and you can browse internet and access your pop3 account without installing
any software, is that correct?

Thanks


"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23YIDaqNRDHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
The problem the guest are having is when they try to send??? or
receiving???

You mention an SMTP mail client such as OE, but OE is a pop3 mail client.

But basically regardless of what filters you setup, the workstation is gonna
need the firewall client to work.

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so
that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
news:WtmcnWUVwujL6JSiXTWJjg@magma.ca...
Hi Chris,

Our ADSL is a static connection with one IP address.

Thanks

Ron
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O$t3cQpQDHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Is your ADSL connection static or dynamic and how many addresses do you
have??

--
CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)
-----------------------------------------
Please do not reply directly to me by email but only in the newsgroup so
that all may share the information
"RY" <ry328@sympatico.canada> wrote in message
news:eEOdnfFoWYrnMZiiXTWJjA@magma.ca...
Thanks for the quick reply Javier.

Just to make sure I understand it correctly...

If I add a POP3 Pre-defined filter in Web Proxy Secruity setting, then user
will not require to install the Procy Client before they can access to their
pop3 accounts. Is this correct?

Currently, regular users can access their own pop3 account as long as they
have the proxy client installed.

Our LAN setup is that our SBS 4.5 has 2 NIC, one to the ADSL modem and the
other to the switches/hubs.

My objective is to make the customer access to internet and their pop3 email
account as easy as poosible.

Thanks


"Javier Minero" <jme@cimex.nospam.com.mx> wrote in message
news:eWldXLkQDHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...



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