- Re: OT Top-Posting vs. Bottom-Posting
- Posted by msd13 on July 17th, 2003
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:37:51 -0500, "Spoon2001"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You don't have books which are written backwards just because page
turning is an effort, and top posting only exists because the programs
that do it automatically are poorly thought out and the people that
use them are 1) blameless 2) pushed for time 3) inconsiderate and 4)
annoying. So bottom posting, definatley.
p
- Posted by badgolferman on July 17th, 2003
Your book analogy is faulty. I have already read the previous pages in
a book. If I stop reading at the end of a chapter, when I come back to
reading the book again I don't peruse through the previous chapters to
get to the unread chapter.
Top-posting is analogous to subsciption magazines. I have read one
issue and it is sitting in a pile. The next issue is on hand and when I
read it, I will drop it on the pile on TOP of the previous issue. This
is all based on me keeping past issues, of course.
- Posted by -½cut on July 17th, 2003
"badgolferman" <badgolferman@yahoo.com> wrote in news:bf6p2c$bmtcb$1@ID-
199488.news.uni-berlin.de:
awake and on your toes
- Posted by Patrick D. on July 17th, 2003
-½cut <halfcut@DIE_SPAMMERstalkingsheep.co.uk> wrote in
news:Xns93BBC898FFE66halfcutDIESPAMMERsta@195.92.1 93.157:
Personally, I can't stand when somebody posts[top/bottom/middle], but the
new text is not separated from the rest. IMO you should put a blank line
before and after the middle-post. It is easier to read and sometimes the
quoting levels get messed up.
- Posted by msd13 on July 17th, 2003
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:14:02 -0400, "badgolferman"
<badgolferman@yahoo.com> wrote:
To that I could ask why include the previous post at all ? If there is
a standard which everyone keeps to then it does help things run
smoother, but the facts are that what is right for you here isn't
what's right for me. I receive my posts in date order, so I get to see
the end of the thread first - for me having at least the key points of
what the person is responding to in order makes pleasant reading, and
searching on google for the last comment in a thread actually means
that it will be somewhere in the middle of the last page, and it's
debatable if that really is quicker overall. I can't change the way
people post I just have to accept that, and it's not really worth
getting too upset about as the content of the post is of far more
value than the presentation. It's a similar can of worms with how
browsers display HTML, but there is actually a standard and theres no
getting away from the fact that if the standard was applied in all
cases then these sort of discussions wouldn't take place and that
might be better for all of us.
I'm not sure I agree, the analogy assumes that the newer the
information is then the more applicable it is, this might be true of
breaking news and software updates but in conversation where a number
of people are trying to reach an agreement on something objective it
might not be true. We don't all have good memories, if you were a
programmer and you wrote some code when you come back to it sometime
you would want it in as clear a format as possible, that format might
be bottom to top or top to bottom for that individual, but what I'm
saying is that in that situation you wouldn't want a mixture of both,
thats why I think top posting is wrong because it brings that about,
the original guidelines for this kind of thing were bottom posting and
signatures at the bottom etc. To think I can enforce it is obviously
impossible and thats ok...doesn't change my opinion however.
)
- Posted by -½cut on July 17th, 2003
"Patrick D." <pd@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:Xns93BB7A3B839B6pdopdo@204.127.199.17:
Excellent point. I shall bear it in mind.
- Posted by msd13 on July 17th, 2003
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BLEUGH !!!
I have read one The next issue is on hand and
<halfcut@DIE_SPAMMERstalkingsheep.co.uk> wrote:
- Posted by -½cut on July 17th, 2003
Alphabetical. There. All tidied up.
- Posted by Brian Tillman on July 18th, 2003
But certainly many people read the last couple of paragraphs of what they've
already read just to regain the context.
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- Posted by Tiger on July 18th, 2003
"Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> wrote in
news:3f18449d$1@news.si.com:
Especially if one reads many posts in many groups. Heck, I only read a
handful of posts in a handful of groups and top-posting and improper
snippage/orlackthereof gets on my nerves. I can't imagine what it does
to people who read hundreds of posts in 10 or more groups.
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precisely because I cannot do this, I must believe."
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- Posted by Blinky the Shark on July 18th, 2003
Brian Tillman wrote:
I submit that he most likely isn't reading hundreds of chapters out of
*different* books, every day, like many of us do on Usenet, either.
Top posters are lazy.
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