On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:32:34 -0500 'Bear Bottoms'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:

It appears correctly.


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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:25:33 -0500, B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson
<br.ederson@expires-2008-04-30.arcornews.de> wrote:

I never made such a change...please do not assume...get the answer.
No it didn't, it got through because I broke it up...used both UTF-8 (I
chose) and iso-8859-15 which Opera chose by itself. I cannot post the
entire message together. I can post the copy/paste part but not my summary
with it, though I can post the summary...the two together will not
post...which now is even a stranger issue. Badgolferman couldn't post it
through Cox, but could through another server. I do not know yet if it is
Cox or something else. The whole message sends, it just isn't picked up.


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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:34:02 -0500, hummingbird <hummingbird@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

iso-8859-15 (which Opera chose automatically, as iso-8859-1 is in the
preferences (to be used with lack of specification.) I would /assume/ the
encoding is actually iso-8859-15 rather than any other as that is what
Opera chose. Something else is up, as the entire message sends, but is not
seen...but most likely an encoding issue.



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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:19:50 -0500, Bear Bottoms wrote:

That's not an assumption, but a chain of reasoning. It can be wrong.
But unless you missed to give us some important information on the
issue, it is probably right.

Reason: If I past the text in question from the website into a new
message body inside the Opera Mail version you are using (v9.27), I
instantly get above warning message. It has an option to disable it,
permanently. If you *don't* get this warning, you must have disabled
it sometime in past. If, OTOH, you *got* the warning, you'd have
tried to post the message in UTF-8 from the beginning.

UTF-8 is a standard news encoding scheme, which Cox *does* support,
as your upper half posting including the em-dash proves. The lower
half of the posting consists only of 7 bit chars. So it wouldn't
need a different encoding and would coexist nicely with the upper
half, if the whole post was sent in UTF-8.

In fact, the *whole* text in question only contains characters from
<space> to y, some tabs and line breaks and three 8-bit chars (which
together form the em-dash). Therefore, apart from the em-dash it is
a posting with no conspicuity, whatsoever.

You still haven't told us, whether you tried to send your *entire*
posting with explicitly (by hand if Opera doesn't select it, itself)
set UTF-8 encoding. If you didn't, I really don't know, why you're
asking for suggestions, at all. If you did, I'm lost why you didn't
mention it in one of your last dozen postings on the subject, since
I first posted about it. :-( In this case, you should have either
tried my suggestion about 40tude Dialog log or mailing the culprit
to Cox.

Btw., since some of your postings are coming through (cluttering the
group) I ask you to switch those test to alt.test or a similar group.
Thank you.

BeAr
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:50:21 -0500, "Bear Bottoms"
<bearbottoms1@gmai.com> wrote:


That same thing has been happening to me in a couple diff groups. Did
you find out anything yet?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:09:04 -0500, Greg Farr <gregfarr@comcast.net> wrote:

Yes...I'm 95% certain it was a character encoding issue. I was using
ISO-8895-15 and copied a character that needed UTF-8...or visa versa...I
don't remember now. Anyway, try different encoding on the posts that get
dropped and repost them to see if that is your issue.

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"Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1@gmai.com> wrote in
newsp.t94z5dtfjo4m88@bwwlxc1.br.no.cox.net:

Do you smell filterration, censorship, has freeware been comprised?


Are You getting bored?

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:45:03 -0500, "Bear Bottoms"
<bearbottoms1@gmai.com> wrote:


I guess I'm too dumb for that, as I don't know what it means. Sorry.

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:39:56 -0500, Greg Farr <gregfarr@comcast.net> wrote:

I see you are using Forte Agent. Somewhere in the menus is one to set the
character encoding i.e. UTF-8 or ISO-8895-15, etc. If you have a post
dropped, try changing the character encoding in that menu to one or the
other. It may be an character encoding issue like my problem was.
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:39:56 -0700 'Greg Farr'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:


Greg, in your Agent v2.0, play around with General
Preferences\Languages\Default Charset and select Unicode UTF-8.
Then hit OK. That might improve the situation.


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