Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote
I just didnt make a distinction between the datasheet and what he calls the manual.

With those Hitachi drives, its the OEM specs that you can see the zone detail listed in.

Franc Zabkar wrote in news:fbgbv3lh8j91652focorvq08ntvbvtbqm9@4ax.com
Total and utter gibberish.

Timothy Daniels wrote in news:47f6641f$0$30701$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
Bwahahah.

Franc Zabkar wrote in news:sj6dv3tvgbgmuk31uemvhoe798hon6q9tc@4ax.com
.... is that you take that idiot seriously ...

No. Really?

So it does *not* make sense.

Which is why they are called mfgr dependent.

Nor was it ever, except for one or two experiments.

Timothy Daniels wrote in news:47f6e88c$0$24106$4c368faf@roadrunner.com
And you give the word Newbee a whole new meaning.
How long have you been here? And not learned a single bit, ever.

Franc Zabkar wrote in news:29qfv3t7kf3bl632pdv5tcrcb3m4723gdc@4ax.com
Bullshit.

Arno Wagner wrote in news:65g1kcF2f2t30U3@mid.individual.net
Like there is any other way.

The heads are assumed settled once the sector mark (in the servo data)
has been recognized (it bloody well has to since the servo data is read by
the same head) and the synchronization field field has passed the head.
Obviously you can't read the datafield *before* it passes the head.

Pity that to be able to read the sector contents the sector marks have to
be read first. If the drive would still have trouble to read the sector da-
ta already, imagine how it would be even worse reading the sector marks,
before that.

Pity that the distance of the sector marks and the data field is the same for
reading and writing. Once the sector mark is read, the data field follows
in a fixed time. No waiting whatsoever. If not, the drive has a full rotation
time before it can try again.

Rod Speed wrote in news:679hfhF2lhee0U1@mid.individual.net
He also used the word TRULY, moron.

mechphisto@gmail.com wrote:

I keep the SMART warnings turned on in BIOS always. The only "more
issues than it's worth"-type problems are merely inconvenience issues.
For example, if SMART does detect an error on a drive, BIOS will throw
up the warning during boot time, and then stop the boot process until
you read the message and manually tell it to continue. This will happen
everytime you boot, and if you're rebooting often (eg. during Windows
patch updates), this can become annoying.

However, SMART is one of the most lenient error detection schemes out
there. It usually finds no errors, so if it actually finds something
then it's usually a sign that the drive truly needs to be replaced
sooner rather than later.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote in news:480f5492$1@news.bnb-lp.com
Nonsense again.
S.M.A.R.T. doesn't differentiate between internal and external induced errors.
If the PS is at fault replacing the drive won't help.

Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
He used the word USUALLY for a reason, fool.

Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag, fuckwit.

Folkert Rienstra wrote:

Hello precious, your momma been spanking you again? Dry your tears and
go tell her you're a person and you deserve to be respected.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote
Nar, its those nice fellas in white coats that are his problem.

No one respects rabid loonys except that they dont bother with those funky canvas jackets
with extremely long sleeves anymore, just taser them and inject them to keep them under control.

Yousuf Khan wrote in news:48121180$1@news.bnb-lp.com
And another troll that drops the mask.
Trolls aren't what they used to be, these days.
They're so easily provoked. It's so disappointing.

Rod Speed wrote
I'll bet that you know all this from personal experience, yes?

Yousuf Khan wrote:

But you can just run HDtune (free version) and it will read the SMART
info without having to have it enabled in the bios.


http://www.hdtune.com/

Rod Speed wrote:

Isn't that the exact same flame you have been using for the past ten
years? Time to buy the new 'Flaming For Dummies' book as they have now
expanded it beyond one flame.

Rod Speed wrote:

And you should know that better than anyone here.

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:14:03 GMT, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

The following article suggests that S.M.A.R.T is always enabled as far
as the drive is concerned. The BIOS setting merely controls whether
the BIOS will test the SMART health status of a disc at bootup.

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

================================================== ===================
My computer's BIOS has a SMART enable/disable setting. What does it
do, and how should I set it?

Some type of BIOS can check the SMART health status of a disk at
bootup ... This one-time check on bootup is done if the BIOS SMART
setting is set to 'ENABLE', and is not done if the setting is set to
'DISABLE'.

If this one-time check is done, and the disk's health status is found
to be 'FAIL', then typically the BIOS will display an error message
and refuse to boot the machine.

For the proper functioning of smartmontools [or any other SMART
software tool], either BIOS setting may be used.
================================================== ===================

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.