Rod Speed wrote in news:679hd5F2n5njlU1@mid.individual.net
Something the two of you have in common.
The "occasionally", that is, then.

Would enterprise SATA drives like Seagate Barracuda ES.2 work in a
desktop PC? I am assuming there's no difference physically, i.e. SATA
data and power connectors are identical between desktop and server
environments.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yep.

Yep.

What are the spec of these Seagate ES.2 drives?

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
The model I have in mind is a 1TB/7200rpm model.

Yousuf Khan

Roger Blake wrote:
Are you kidding?

Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:480f49b7@news.bnb-lp.com...

Eric Gisin wrote:
You are free to killfile me if you like, but I suspect you're simply
here to get your thrills from trolling. Have you actually ever answered
anyone's question, ever?

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote in news:480f8356$1@news.bnb-lp.com
And you're obviously not.

And that's the third one. You're on a roll, aren't you.

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote
He does occasionally correct some gross error.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:00:04 -0400, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com>
wrote:



I installed a Seagate Barracuda ES.2 SATA ST31000340NS 1tB
maximum operating temperature: 55C
watts (average): typical 12.5 Operating: 8.0
from:
http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/data...acuda_es_2.pdf
replacing a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630A ATA/100 500-gB
maximum operating temperature: 60C
watts (average): seek 12.6 Operating 13.0 Idle 9.3
(7200.10 SATA units have the same power numbers)
from:
http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/data...da_7200_10.pdf

For comparison:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000340AS 1 tB
maximum operating temperature: 60C
watts (average): Seek: 11.6 Operating: 12.0 Idle: 8.0

The ES.2 is spected for more power than the 7200.11.

Note that the allowed operating temperature is higher for the
7200.10 and 7200.11 than the ES.2.

Note also that the 8.0 watts operating seems in conflict with
the 12.5 watts typical. Maybe "Operating" means "Idle"

In my setup the ES.2 ran hotter than the 7200.10, so I had to
install a fan. (The ES.2 drive has a SATA-to-PATA converter
connected to it. This may be what makes the ES.2 drive run hotter,
but the converter doesn't seem to be located near the hotspots.)

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Eric Gisin wrote:
:: That's the second stupid question you've asked.
:
: You are free to killfile me if you like, but I suspect you're
: simply here to get your thrills from trolling. Have you
: actually ever answered anyone's question, ever?
:

Yousuf, this asshole has been trolling Usenet for years. For quite some
time he used to insist on top-posting, now he just trolls and insults. I
think he may be best (bun) buddies with that other asshole and nazi troller,
Fucknut....I mean Folkert. It's just a fricken shame to see what Usenet has
been reduced to. :-(

Gary Seven <http://vzone.virgin.net/gary.seven/> wrote:
asshole, (bun) buddie, nazi, fuck.

Yup, no further introduction needed:
http://vzone.virgin.net/gary.seven

Just another wannabee troll looking for bait.

(Hi Rod. You would have been more convincing if you had included yourself as the third asshole).

Mark F wrote:

Okay, thanks for the info. The specs on Seagate's site seems to indicate
that some ES.2 drives also come with a SAS connector. But it doesn't
mention whether that SAS is an optional secondary interface that is
located beside the SATA or instead of the SATA.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote
The full manual for the drives should spell that out.

Rod Speed wrote in news:67euuaF2oe2b8U1@mid.individual.net
"The Seagate® Barracuda® ES.2 drive comes with a SAS or SATA interface and provides high-capacity, 7200-RPM nearline storage for
situations where dollars per ..."

http://www.yourdictionary.com/or
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a coordinating conjunction introducing an alternative

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alternative Definition al·ter·na·tive (ôl t?r'n? tiv, al-)
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providing or being a choice between two

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Like that he would understand that any better.

Yousuf Khan wrote:
Hello, Yousuf:

You are quite correct, sir.

Sometimes, but, he's basically a human trolling machine. <g>


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
Hello, Folkert:

Even more obviously, nobody could ever compete with >you<, Herr Troll-Meister.

Only three? That's not nearly as many drunks as you've "rolled" and trolled,
Folksy. ;-)


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

Rod Speed wrote:

Hello, Rod:

Yet, Eric Gisin >is< a "gross error," no? <g>


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:20:31 -0400, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com>
wrote:

SATA plug compatible interface so that you could plug SATA drives
directly into a backplane that the SAS drives plugged into, and
therefore the controller could support both kinds. (I don't
think that the SAS drives work with SATA controllers as a
"transparent" fallback.)

The connector would be a SFF 8482 as on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Attached_SCSI ,
but, I wasn't able to confirm this at the Seagate site.