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Samsung - why no external drives ?
Posted by shopping on December 28th, 2005



Yes - i could email the CEO but it is a suprising omission from their range
?






Posted by Rod Speed on December 28th, 2005


shopping <shopping@hotmail.com> wrote

Bet he wouldnt answer.

They do tend to be a bit later to market than say Seagate.

Only recently with drives over 250G for example.



Posted by Arno Wagner on December 28th, 2005


Previously shopping <shopping@hotmail.com> wrote:

No. You can use any empty enclosure and install a Samsung HD in it.
They just choose not to compete in that area. Given the bad products,
e.g. Maxtor offers, I think this is a sensible decision.

Arno






Posted by J. Clarke on December 28th, 2005


shopping wrote:

Hardly. "External" drives are just "internal" drives in a box. Any moron
can put a drive in a box these days. I suspect that Samsung just doesn't
want to be bothered with the end-user support that such devices entail.

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Posted by shopping on December 28th, 2005



i know i can put one in an enclosure myself but i thought it was a suprising
omission from their product range

if this type of product causes lots of end-user support as you say
maybe thats the main factor



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Posted by J. Clarke on December 28th, 2005


shopping wrote:

Might also be an issue with establishing a reputation--you can make an
external enclosure big and noisy with good cooling and shock mounting or
cheap and quiet with no cooling or shock mounting--if you do the former you
have trouble competing with the smaller cheaper products without cooling or
shock protection while if you do the latter you get a reputation for making
unreliable drives because the enclosures are cooking them or they're
getting dropped or both.

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Posted by Arno Wagner on December 28th, 2005


Previously J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote:
Your argument sounds very reasonable to me. A loose-loose situation
they are quite smart not to get into in the first place.

Arno

Posted by shopping on December 28th, 2005



your answer has prompted a question from me

in your opinion - who makes a good external drive ?

as in good not cheap tat :-)



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Posted by Arno Wagner on December 29th, 2005


Previously shopping <shopping@hotmail.com> wrote:

I like the Agrosy 360 enclosures. Cooled well enough
with current Samsung or Seagate drives. Not recommended
with older Maxtors.

Arno


Posted by J. Clarke on December 29th, 2005


shopping wrote:

As a package, haven't found one. Haven't found a purpose-made external
enclosure that I like either.

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Posted by Odie Ferrous on December 29th, 2005


"J. Clarke" wrote:

Ditto here. Let me know when (if) you find one.

I'm sorely tempted to get into the external drive manufacturing
business...


Odie
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Posted by Arno Wagner on December 30th, 2005


Previously Odie Ferrous <odie_ferrous@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think the problem is the price the market is willing to tolerate.

I would do something like this: Use a good cooler like this one here:

http://www.distrelec.com/ishopWebFro...daaaz&series=1

and mount the HDD on it with thermal pads for good thermal contact.
Position the cooler up and add a case over the HDD and electronics
below it. Can be sturdy plastic or metal. For vertical stand, add
rubber shock absorbers outside of the case on both sides.

The cooler has 0.75K/W. Add another 0.5 K/W for mounting and so,
then a HDD consuming 20W (generous upper limit for modern drives),
stays at 25C over room temperature under heavy load.
Trouble is, this cooler alone costs about 15 Euro. Add electronics,
external PSU, cable, manufacturing cost and sales overhead and it
ends up costing something like 2-4 times what current enclosures
cost.

Arno




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