On a few DVD titles I own the "CC" for "closed captioning" is on the
box, but I can't get the closed captioning to appear when I play them.
I engage the sub-title button on the remote and nothing comes up. I
even engage the closed captioning setting on the tv. What gives?

<richard48@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Closed captioning should *only* work through the TV tuner. It's different
from the subtitle feature you activate on your DVD player.

RichC

If the box the dvd is packaged in has the "CC" symbol on it, shouldn't I
get captioning when I engage the sub-title button on the dvd player
remote?
I just bought a dvd set (Tour of Duty 5 disk set) and it has the "CC"
symbol on the box. There is no option on the menu for sub titles, and
shows nothing when I push te su title button on the dvd remote.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:06:25 -0400, richard48@webtv.net wrote:

No, Closed Captions ("CC") are encoded on line 19 - 21 of the video
signal so that they may be decoded by an EXTERNAL Closed Captioning
decoder, usually the one in your TV, though in the early days of
Closed captioning you could buy a standalone unit. No DVD player ever
made has a built in Closed Captioning decoder. (I know of one
laserdisc player that could decode CC subs on laserdiscs.)

As I said "CC" does not mean subtitles. If you want to see subtitles
on a DVD the back of the box has to specifically say "Subtitles"
followed by "English, English for Hearing-Impaired, French, Spanish.."
or whatever. These subtitles are displayed from an Alpha channel
within the DVD's Vobs for direct display via the subtitle button on
the DVD player.

Steve ..

"" <richard48@webtv.net> wrote in alt.video.dvd:
Once again, you're mixing up two different things. Closed captions
are NOT subtitles. You should not expect to get closed captions when
you ask for subtitles.

A disc can have closed captions, subtitles, both, or neither. Many
discs don't have English subtitles but do have English closed
captions, which seems rather silly to me since the extra production
cost would be minimal and the text is already available.

No.

Closed captions are controlled by your TV. Pull out your TV
instruction manual and find out how to display closed captions.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
DVD FAQ: http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
other FAQs: http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm

richard48@webtv.net wrote:

In my experience, sometimes TVs can be a bit finicky about DVD closed
captioning. One TV I had wouldn't display the captions if I had been
watching TV for a while first or had just been playing another DVD.
Sometimes turning on the DVD player then the TV will fix this. Other times
I have not been able to get CC to work at all and am convinced that the
case is incorrect.

Meanwhile, my multi-region player (Portland PVD-1000, made by Daewoo) seems
to block CC. While I'm aware that overseas closed captioning formats might
not work on American TVs, I've tried region 1 DVDs that I know have CC with
no success.

Manda

OK........forget sub-titles on this dvd, I know it doesn't have it, but
it does have the "CC" symbol on the box. My tv has a built in CC
decoder.......I use CC all the time, and know how to set it. So why no
captioning on this dvd?

<richard48@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Can you get CC from *any* DVD that purports to have it? If yes, then it's
possibly a DVD that's mislabeled. If no, then there's something going on
with your player, or the interaction between your player and your TV.

RichC

I don't own many DVD's yet, but actually the CC doesn't work on any of
them, so there must be some conflict between the dvd player and the tv.
This really sucks 'cause I depend on CC or english sub titles.......I'm
hearing impaired.

Richard S.

<richard48@webtv.net> wrote in message
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How do you have your DVD player connected to your tv? Rf demodulator,
composite, s-video ,component?

I'm using the s-video connection from the dvd player to the tv.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:07:02 -0400, richard48@webtv.net wrote:

I know it's ridiculous but some players don't have captioning on the
Component (Y/C or R-y, B-y, Y) outputs. just composite. Although the
picture is poorer just for testing try usng the composite out of the
player. I'm severely deaf too so I've been through all this.

. Steve .

I thought of that.......tried the composit connection..........still no
captions.........I've checked all the connections and settings on the
dvd payer and tv, and still......no captions.......its a mystery.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:44:06 -0400, richard48@webtv.net wrote:

Depends on the TV. When I got my second player, I gave my old one to a
family member. When I would visit play DVDs, the TV would display the
CCs from broadcast and VHS signals, but not from the DVD player.

Rich Clark wrote:
My cheap, feature-laden Toshiba SD-3800 can do captions, presumably for
people whose tvs don't do them, or have a screwy decoder (like mine).

--
"If you examined a hundred people who had lost their faith in
Christianity, I wonder how many of them would turn out to have reasoned
out of it by honest argument? Do not most people simply drift away?"

--C.S. Lewis

richard48@webtv.net wrote:
Subtitles on a DVD are not the same thing as captions, they are a
separate video stream that is over-layed on top of the movie, in fact it
can display more than just text, if ever you've seen one of those DVDs
that has a little video window in front of the movie as a special
feature, that is really the same thing as a subtitle track, technically.

Closed captions are actually encoded into the video signal, and if a DVD
claims to have closed captions but you can't get your tv to accept them,
perhaps your tv has multiple CC settings you are unaware of, or has a
bad decoder. Try it on a friend's tv. If all else fails, perhaps the
DVD is mis-labeled.

--
"If you examined a hundred people who had lost their faith in
Christianity, I wonder how many of them would turn out to have reasoned
out of it by honest argument? Do not most people simply drift away?"

--C.S. Lewis

Steve(JazzHunter) wrote:
So you couldn't care less about having a stereo track or a 6.1 DTS
track? I hope you're not filling out any opinion forms that
DVD-producers are going to see! :-D

--
"If you examined a hundred people who had lost their faith in
Christianity, I wonder how many of them would turn out to have reasoned
out of it by honest argument? Do not most people simply drift away?"

--C.S. Lewis

richard48@webtv.net wrote in message news:<9894-40D52426-167@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>...
What type of player do you have? Some JVC players have been known to
block or filter out the closed-captions of a video signal. Other
people have reported this problem, and I ran across this when I
purchased a JVC. I then returned it and got a Panasonic player, and
the CC signal was working again.

Just curious, which titles have you tried? Some studios, like
Universal, claim to have closed captions on their DVDs, but they don't
really encode a CC signal into the video. They just use the subtitles
feature of the DVD. I think Lion's Gate does this on some of their
titles also. Most Criterion titles don't have CC either, but usually
have subtitles.

Most other major studios, like Warner Bros., Fox, Paramount,
Dreamworks, Columbia/TriStar, Disney/Buena Vista all have closed
captions.

Smaller studios will not include CC or subtitles.

Lee

Just my luck.......my dvd player is a JVC. My tv is a 27" JVC with CC
capabilities that work fine on tv broadcasts and VHS tapes, but not with
dvd's

"Platoon" dvd............marked "CC" on the box, but I get no captions.
But get this.......it has sub-titles for french, and spanish, but NO
ENGLISH.

Tour of Duty 5 disk dvd set..........no sub-titles, "CC" marked on box,
but get no captions.

Man With No Name (Clint Eastwood Italian westerns, you know which
ones)..........has english sub-titles (Yea!). Again, "CC" marked on the
box, but get no captions.

Richard S.

<richard48@webtv.net> wrote in message
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So just try another player. If you don't have another, have a friend bring
one over(non-JVC) and give it a try.