- Copying a DVD-VR disc on PC which was created on a Liteon DVD Recorder (for TV)
- Posted by Andrew Johnson on January 3rd, 2005
Hi,
I have just been copying some kids VHS tapes to a DVD-RW disc, created on a
LVW-5006B All-Write Home Dvd Recorder. I created it mainly in Super Long
Play mode so that I could get about 5 hours recording. The LiteOn writes the
disk in DVD-VR format
This disc plays back fine on my PC. However, the 1st puzzle was that when I
look at the sizes of the VOB files etc, the PC read them as being a total of
8GB in size (not bad for a 4.7 GB disc).
I used Nero to create a DVD image of this disc (which came out at the
correct size), but when I copied this image to another disc, only part of it
would play - the later recordings I made would not play back on the PC or
the recorder - it just froze.
Any ideas/thoughts? As I have copied about 5 VHS tapes onto the disc (and
the quality is pretty good actually), I want to make a backup copy before
taking the tapes to a charity shop or something.
I tried using DVD Shrink and that can't seem to handle the disk at all - it
just gives errors!
DVDx can see a couple of IFO files and view a couple of the recordings - but
there are many more on the disk!
Any ideas?
Thanks a lot and Happy New Year
Andrew
- Posted by P Pron on January 3rd, 2005
Andrew Johnson wrote:
I'm not an expert , but the first thing that occurs to me is that I've never
heard of a single layer DVD-Video that plays for 5 hours. I wonder if the
standalone DVD player simply doesn't know what this is.
The second thing is that blank discs cost less than a Mars bar. I'd be
inclined to start again, using less extreme compression, and splash out on a
second blank disc - and not an RW disc, which many standalone players have
difficulties with.
Just a thought
paul
- Posted by P Pron on January 3rd, 2005
guv wrote:
Sorry - maybe it's the RW issue, then....
paul
- Posted by /\\/\\arc on January 3rd, 2005
"P Pron" <paulatspambegone.pron@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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Most DVD standalone recorders let you record upto 6hours in super long play
mode. It's not good quality, but it'll do for most stuff off the tv.
/\/\arc
- Posted by Gary on January 3rd, 2005
"/\/\arc" <marcPUTANUNDERSCOREHEREburrage@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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you may find it is MPEG1 and the shrink programs dont like that.
try just copying without processing. you know it fits.
- Posted by Lee@DVDDebate on January 4th, 2005
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:12:33 GMT, "Andrew Johnson"
<ad.johnson@ntlworld.com.allpackaging> wrote:
similar results.
Lee.
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- Posted by Smid on January 4th, 2005
Erm, a couple of things...
1) Are you sure its a DVD-VR format (Vr-mode)? Because thats usually
UDF based filesystem and a big file called a .VRO file (I think),
completely different from DVD-Video format (Video_ts directory with
..VOB and .IFO files). Former has better editability, later has better
compatibility. I used VR-mode until I had to copy some TV recordings
(glastonbury 2004, 28 hours of coverage, phew) and found it
incompatible with everything from DVD players to editing software... I
redid the recording in DVD-Video format. I don't use the VR. I think
Ulead DVD movie factory gives you the option to copy from -VR format to
Video format, but you lose the menus.
(My JVC DVD recorder gives me the choice of either when using a -RW)
2) Yes, 6 hours is the most you can fit onto a DVD-RW/R with that JVC
recorder. I heard one does 12 hours but I suspect thats the silly
double sided -RAM format...
3) I had problems when trying to copy DVD-Video recordings from a Nero
disc image (yes, the file sizes are wrong, probably some jiggery pokery
to do with titles and making things max file size to be on safe side).
I simply recorded the discs at 2 speed rather than 4 speed, and they
seemed to work.
Hope that works....
Smid
- Posted by Covenant on January 4th, 2005
"Andrew Johnson" <ad.johnson@ntlworld.com.allpackaging> wrote in message
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This is *somerthing* similar to a problem I got with a burn from a JVC
recorder.
The final VOB was filled with false data that made it *max size*.
Wouldn't be recognised to be played by anything other than Power DVD.
Explorer *saw* the vobs but always said the last was corrupt, or part of a
damaged file structure.
LOADS of programs simply wouldn't rip it.
(It was DVD santa that showed the dozens of false data packets in the last
vob)
How I got around FINALLY ripping this was using a program called IsoBuster.
It's VERY good at extracting data from such things.
(Good for ripping things like SVCDs as well.)
--
Covenant
A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands
- Posted by Bill Vermillion on January 7th, 2005
In article <33svgfF41gnu4U1@individual.net>,
P Pron <paulatspambegone.pron@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
My standalone DVD Recorder has options of 1 hr, 2.5 hours, 4 hours,
or 6 hours. The newer model even has an 8 hour feature. It's just
a matter of encoding at a much lower bit-rate.
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
- Posted by Gary on January 8th, 2005
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