Version 2.2.1.445

I have an mpg clip in which the audio is out of sync by about 1/2
second. So I invoke "Adjust Audio Syncronization" in the main editor
and it fixes the audio when I play the clip.

I select beginning and ending points, Add Selection and then do a Save
As. However the resulting saved clip does not have the audio in sync.

The Help files claim that the Saved clip should have the audio fixed,
but that did not happen. What is going wrong?


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"Citizen Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Are you sure you saved to a different filename and checked that new file?

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:02:02 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:


You might want to go here to ask for VideoReDo-specific help:

http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/index.php

"dgates" <dgates@spamlinkline.com> wrote in message
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And you get superb personal service here
support@hyperreality.com.au

Good luck,
Max

"Citizen Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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I use the "Cut mode" not the "Selection mode", but why not edit
your clip and "Save As" that. Then load that, by selecting the top
item in the listing on the bottom of the "File" tab and THEN doing
the Audio Synchronization.

Luck;
Ken

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:09:01 +1100, "Max Haltermann"
<maxhalt@hugonet.com.au> wrote:

Yes. VRD will change the name by adding [2] to the name and I did
check the new one.


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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:21:25 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I do not want to edit the clip. I want to sync the audio.

I have done this successfully before with an older version of VRD. But
I cannot get it to work with this newer version.

There is something fishy about this clip. It came to me as some other
kind of file type (I forgot which) which I converted to mpg. How do I
get VRD to standardize it so the sync will work.

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"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
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"Citizen Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Then what is this all about: "I select beginning and ending points,
Add Selection and then do a Save As. However the resulting
saved clip does not have the audio in sync." It sounds like you
are saving selected portions of the clip/file you opened in VRD.


You could try what I described in my last post.

If you are saying that you aren't making selected smaller clips
from a larger original file, then just use the QuickFix tool on the
file, and then open the fixed file in VRD, to do the resyncing.
/Ken

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:44:14 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

As mentioned I tried that but it did not work. Then I decided to see
what would happen if I did cut the clip a small amount. Then it
worked.

Further experiments showed that you do not have to cut anything off
the end, and the minimum amount that must be cut off the beginning
appears to be 20 frames. I tried to cut just 15 frames but that did
not work.

This is a bug, which does not really surprise me for VRD, because it
is bug-ridden. It won't save properly unless a small amount is cut off
the beginning.


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"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:44:14 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I did not want to do any editing but I had to in order to Save the
clip. Also, the beginning and ending points were the extremes of the
clip. IOW I did not crop the clip.

Yes, but first I would like to know why the procedure I am using,
which is exactly as specified in the Help file, is not working. If I
am doing something wrong, then changing the method of editing would
not make any difference.

That is correct.

OK, I will now try that...

OK, I did that. I QuickFixed the original clip and then imported the
fixed clip into the editor and fixed the audio sync. I played
perfectly on the editor display. Then I Saved As to a third file. But
the sync was still not correct in this third file.

It's as if VRD is ignoring the sync-corrected clip in the editor and
saving the imported file instead.

I did not have this problem before I upgraded. I may have to uninstall
this version and install the older one which I saved on an archive
disk.


--

"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:39:17 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob) wrote:


There's a step during the Save As where you have some options on what
to do with the file -- specifically with the audio, IIRC.

This might be a moment where you have to tell VideoReDo to save the
audio in one of the files it's capable of encoding?

I'd be curious about the audio format of

your original file
the successful save where you had to clip 20 frames
the unsuccessful save

Again, I think you should be asking this on the VideoReDo forums,
where they say things like "Hit Ctrl-L, paste the contents of what you
see and we'll tell you how to fix it."


BTW, if you really have to dump 20 frames from the beginning, maybe
you should start by joining some 20-frame clip to the beginning of
this clip you're trying to save.

"Citizen Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message news:458ad2b0.122054406@news-server.houston.rr.com...
I've never run into this with VRD. I routinely load files, and
immediately do a quick fix on them. It works, and nothing
else is required.

In message <458ad2b0.122054406@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Citizen Bob
<spam@uce.gov> writes
Bug-ridden? Is it really? Well, it works fine for me. What other bugs
have you found apart from it won't play nicely with some strange clip
that you have converted to mpg with something else from some other
unknown format? Hmm?

Bob

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:19:40 GMT, "blahblah_nospam@sbcglobal.net"
<EDM_spamblock_@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Did you read the entire thread? Obviously not.

The problem was not with Quick Fix but with saving a clip in the
editor while applying the Sybchronize Audio tool. If you do not cut a
small amount off the beginning, the saved clip will not have the audio
sync fixed.


--

"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:29:14 GMT, Bob Adams <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Yes.

Yes.

Good for you.

But I am not you.

Locking up is the biggest problem I have had to face. Failure to
perform is the next biggest problem.

If VRD doesn't like a clip, then it should reject it without locking
up or not work properly.

I can cite example of each, but then I am not a beta test site so I
have no desire to do so. The only reason I brought this bug up here is
because I was stumped. But Ken gave me a clue when he said something
about cutting the clip.

The guy who wrote VRD obviously did not pay attention to exceptions
and he has empty stubs. The result is bug-ridden code.

Hmm...


--

"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:04:30 -0800, dgates <dgates@spamlinkline.com>
wrote:

I do not use VRD that much, so it is not worth the effort to make a
big deal out of this. I offered to be a beta test site, but the
developer said he did not need any beta test site.

I believe the problem is in those first 20 frames and by cutting them
VRD can sync the rest of the clip when it saves it. IOW, what it
should do is throw an exception but it doesn't and goes merrily about
saving the old clip instead.


--

"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"

"Citizen Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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You could try re-encoding the whole clip with the fixed audio and then edit
from that...

In message <458bf5b9.49311750@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Citizen Bob
<spam@uce.gov> writes
Perhaps he didn't feel you were overly qualified. ;-)

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:29:14 GMT, Bob Adams <me@privacy.net> wrote:

It works perfectly o.k. for me. No problems what so ever.
Am very pleased with it.

Alan Keatinge

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:25:11 -0000, "Mark W" <s@o> wrote:

As I pointed out I discovered the problem. VRD does not save the new
file unless it has been altered by cutting a small amount off the
front.


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"All men seek to be enlightened. Religion is but the most ancient
and honorable way in which men have striven to make sense out of
God's universe. Scientists seek the lawfulness of events. It is
the task of religion to fit man into this lawfulness. Religion
must remain an outlet for people who say to themsleves, 'I am
not the kind of person I want to be'."
--Frank Herbert, "Dune"