I asked David Lipman in a round about way
if he had been providing malware to known
organized criminals. He avoided giving
a straight answer to a question I
possed by asking me to leave him out of
investigations into people spreading
malware to known malicious malware
spreaders *laughably calling themselves
"peers"*

So if Lipman would like to answer the
question I put to him in. (URL follows)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...69da3fcf54749c

with a denial that he hasn't been sending
malware... Something along the lines of
"No I haven't..."

Interestingly Lipman's website appears
to have been taken offline all of a
sudden! And replaced with
"Unavailable.html", very strange.


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:26:38 -0700, 4Q wrote:

You are a complete loon.

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He got busted stealing software, it was shutdown for a DMCA violation. I
heard about an mentioned it then Leythos the stalker confirmed it. I think
it's mighty particular that Leythos seems to know a lot about it. Just like
he knew about the DMCA attempt to shut me down last week (which failed) I
never mentioned anything about it but he some how knew. He also admitted he
filed many complaints on me and he did mention a few months ago about filing
a DMCA against me. He's what I think is going on. Leythos and David has
filed many fake abuse reports to my ISP, the proof is in my blog
http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/, they all failed. He then files a
DMCA violation which also failed. Him and David had a falling out in another
NG here http://snipurl.com/tpit Leyhtos then filed another DMCA violation
this time to David's hosting company, then he comes here and tries to place
the blame on me.


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Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David
H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell



"4Q" <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:15:45 -0700, pcbutts1 wrote:

LOL, and the complaint, filed on a Friday, left no time for a response
before the weekend started. It will be resolved on Monday as the authors
of WGET and proof that David created Multi-AV has already been presented.

Yep, I know because the people in the community that you pirate from
contact me to give me the details.

The community proved that you prirated the software from Stuart and you
had to remove it - claiming that you sold the technology of a "batch file"
which everyone knows is BS.

I personally can't file a DMCA complaint about you because you've never
stolen anything from me - I would have no grounds for it.

I have filed several complaints about content on your website due to the
Pornographic Nature. This was also done by others. It worked well, as you
removed the named material in short order.

I've never filed a fake anything with your ISP/Hosting providers, I've
always included your headers, your posting headers from other posts you
made, and the truth was the hosting providers to deal with.

LOL - David and I are friends, and you appear to have been the one
impersonating David and myself again, and again, as you have in the past -
since the posting host matches some of your other posts.

So, why are your filthy pages not still up?

So, why is your pirated code no longer online?


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Leythos wrote:
*heh* Cute. I ask questions that are
linked to a known .NetL00n (Dustin Cook,
winner and nominated for numerous
koOK awards). And *I* get bashed by
the unreliable witness 'Leythos' for
rocking the malware/spyware boat.

Anyone can checkout Lipman's site if they
like.

http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

You will be greeted by "unavailable.html"
I just wanted to know if the sudden
disappearance was related to the question
I put to him regarding spreading malware
to known malware criminals?


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:03:56 -0700, 4Q wrote:

No, it's related to a faked complaint that was filed late on Friday, and
didn't provide enough time to resolve before the host legal department
closed until Monday.

Just give it a little time, the same exact site will be back online with
all the links and information - unlike the PCBUTTS website.

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Leythos wrote:
Thanks Leythos for coming forward as
David's representative are updating us
with this information. Isn't it kind
of ironic that here we are discussing
DMCA takedowns and such, when the
actual subject matter is"Did David Lipman
supply malware to a known malware
spreader, Dustin Cook" *the funny bit*
When the criminal recently threatened to
take my website offline with a Denial of
Service attack, Terms of Service attack
and a *laughing* DMCA attack!!!

You must admit it's a sort of funny
indirect link, btw are you authorised
as David's mouthpiece to issue a denial
that he's been distributing malware to
the virus/malware spreading criminal
Dustin Cook?

Looking forward. :-)


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:45:20 -0700, 4Q wrote:

Are you really a loon?

I'm not speaking for David at all, just telling what I've been made aware
of.

Also, what proof do you have the David has done anything?

Why dont you put your effort on something constructive by going after the
resident software pirate?


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Leythos wrote:
Leythos, mate you let yourself down
with your scatty logic. Just a few posts
ago you claimed "You are a complete loon"
now you are asking if I am a loon?! Not
even a "complete loon". Meanwhile you
are dodging the real focus of this
thread which is to assertain if David
has spread malware to a R-E-A-L irresponsible
loon, Dustin Cook.


I see, so you haven't been made 'aware'
of the situation relating to Dustin Cook
braggarting about so called respected
anti-malware spreading malicious code
his way and David Lipman's involvement?
(question mark)

Mate, wind your neck in for a minute
okay... I'm asking David Lipman if he
has spread malware to dustin Cook, I've
not accussed him. He can simply deny it
if he hasn't. It's the loony Cook that
is running around claiming respected
anti-malware people are slipping him
malicious binaries.


You are talking about Butts yeah? Well
tell you what, let's see if this
mysterious company he alleges to sold
Spyerase to, materializes. What kind of
'fair' deadline shall we give him?
If the deadline expires and Butts is
still 'hot news' in this group, then we
can start asking difficult questions,
and have some fun at his expense, sound
okay to you?


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:54:01 -0700, 4Q wrote:
Until you show me that Dustin is a crook I can't accept your ideas or your
methods. As best I can tell, Dustin is a stand-up person, repented for
anything he may have done, and has been absolved for his past issues.

I think you need to learn that people can change, read that as Grow Up,
and become responsible adults, it happens all the time.


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"Leythos" <Void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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That's funny. I'd suggest you do some googling of long ago posts in ACV,
like "RAiD+ I hate people+January 1, 1999 to December 31, 2001", for
starters. Also for the same period "Dustin Cook + Graham Cluely". Maybe you
believe in sociopaths and liars redeeming themselves, like changing clothes.
Evidence abounds from numerous studies on criminal and deviant behavior to
suggest otherwise. Take this as constructive criticism, not a slag or a
troll.

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:25:57 -0500, optikl wrote:

Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.

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"Leythos" <Void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:1174829942_2503@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Clearly, my comments had nothing to do with David, for whom I have the
highest regard. Without disclosing my personal working relationships or
educational background, I'd stake a paycheck or two or three that you're not
on to guys like RAiD.

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:27:45 -0500, optikl wrote:

I think you misunderstand my statements - I never suggested anything from
you about David, sorry if you took it that way.

I've been working in the computer design and programming fields since the
late 70's, written more than my share of things that might be questioned
by some. Most of my work is in network security for Medical and Government
installations. I would say that while I don't know a significant amount
about RAID's actuall actions, what I've seen of the reformed person seems
warrant a second chance.

As a side note, David is also held in higest regard by myself.

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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:27:36 -0500, Leythos <Void@nowhere.com> wrote:

I don't think Dustin has repented at all. He doesn't see any harm in
viruses. He just hates spyware and Trojans I do tend to believe
him when he says he has outgrown his interest in writing viruses.
But that's quite a different thing from repenting. Apparently, then,
he has no interest now in writing any kind of malware, including
viruses. But that remains to be seen.

Art

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:05:54 +0000, Art wrote:

So the question stands, what has he done lately to cause one to believe
he's not on the good side?

Nothing I've seen in the last couple years indicates he's nothing less
than what he claims to be.


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optikl wrote:
Here's an interesting one regarding Irok
virus. Here he describes how he wrote it
because he hates people. (always has,
always will - after all Dustin Cook is
a true sociopath)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...de21bad4943e85

There is lots of evidence like this of
the real sociopath Dustin Cook (aka Raid)

And let's not forget his maliciousness
towards Rhonda Lea Kirk a few months back
when he printed her name & address into
alt.sex newsgroups and asked perverts to
stalk her in real life. Sociopathic Outer
filth that he is.


He's always been a deviant and he still
continues to be one. This BugHunterShit
bollocks is a front, maybe Leythos and
the other sychophants have forgotten
that Raidy runs a distribution network
( HHI ) for illegal download of films & music, amongst other things.
And it's not
because he is philanthropic, it's a
selfish mechanism used as a form of
currency to buy favour with other
network traders (for whatever their
stolen goods happen to be). Nice criminal
friends you've got there Leythos ;]]

Leythos wrote:
See my reply to Optikl regarding recent
activities of Raid[SLAM] (Dustbin Cook)
the sociopathic turd. Btw do you know
there is an illegal distribution of
material circulating the Internet atm
with a dedication to me(4Q) from your
whiter than white hero Dustin Cook?
*choke on that for a while before you
tap out your next reply* Or are certain
criminal acts okay so long as it's one
of your friends?


4Q
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:30:21 -0700, 4Q wrote:
I think you are clearly off your rocker. While I'm willing to give him a
second chance and see how he does, I could not say that he's a "Friend" in
the sense of a "Friend". Now, don't take that wrong, most people that are
in communications in Usenet are not friends, few become friends, they just
learn about each other enough to trust via electronic means.

So, until you show me that he's created something malicious in the last
couple years, with 100% certain proof that he created it, you would do
better to just keep your mouth quiet - you're only making yourself look
like some radical zealot, childish, and have lost any hope of bringing
people to your point of view.


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Leythos <Void@nowhere.com> wrote in news:1174785268_2133
@sp6iad.superfeed.net:

Who knows...

None that I know of. I'm unsure exactly what he's trying to accuse David of
doing, myself...




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Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.2
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
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