I was curious, how people infect with flu or cold.
There are some studies which seem to prove that
it's mainly that you touch something which an
infected person had touched before.

But then they conclude that the virus enters your body
when you touch your nose or eyes afterwards.
How do they know this ?
Couldn't it be that the virus enters through mouth,
after touching the food, which you eat ?

-Guenter.

guenter stertenbrink wrote:
computer viruses (and various other malwares). Oh how I miss the days
when it was easier to catch gonorhea then a computer virus.

Regards,

Will

On 9 Mar 2005 22:53:16 -0800, sterten@aol.com (guenter stertenbrink)
wrote:

Ha ha, too funny. This news group discusses electronic viruses
(computer viruses) not the biological kind you speak of.
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enters by your mouth with food normally
"guenter stertenbrink" <sterten@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <4230203a$0$22848$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, mindful@wiser.coma.tb says...
any mucous membrane or cut will do, though.

my kid just had chickenpox...

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| In Message-ID:<rk6031lgdc23qktespsbnhd7p4o5jta0v9@4ax.com> posted on
| Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:00:51 +0000, Ian JP Kenefick wrote: Begin
|
| So, go to the neighborhood internet cafe, lick the keyboard,
| then see what you come down with.
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| Bart


Good reply Bart -- Nice X-Face as well ;-)

--
Dave

"guenter stertenbrink" <sterten@aol.com> wrote in message
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That is one way, and may be true for cold and influenza.

These are ways the virus can circumvent the skins defense mechanism.

Theory and experimentation.

The digestive tract is a very harsh environment for a virus to survive
in, but there are some acid resistant bacteria that find it survivable.
When you consider that bio-viruses (analogous to computers viruses in
this respect) act within hosts then it is logical that viral code could
survive being eaten.

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Big Will wrote:

Sig snarf!

Norman "who still has a hat somewhere that says
``Remember when SEX was DIRTY and the AIR was CLEAN?''" De Forest
--
"umm...wrong type of virus. This NG discusses the much easier to catch
computer viruses (and various other malwares). Oh how I miss the days
when it was easier to catch gonorhea then a computer virus."
-- Big Will in alt.comp.virus, Wed, 9 Mar 2005

"guenter stertenbrink" <sterten@aol.com> wrote:



Guenter:

The Influenza Transmission Bible
http://www.flu.lanl.gov/review/ITbib.html

Haemophilus influenza (Hib) - Mechanisms of Transmission
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~balamoti/h-...ns/trans.shtml


Len Agoado
agoado@msn.com

"Bart Bailey" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Like the guy whose doctor told him he had herpes. He said "Good God, I must
have got it from a toilet seat!"

"When did you start eating toilet seats?" asked his doctor.

guenter stertenbrink wrote:

that's possible, but people generally only eat a couple times a day
whereas they can touch their eyes or nose all day long... the incidence
of infection through eye/nose touching would then seem to be higher
than the incidence of infection through ingestion...

--
"we are the revenants
and we will rise up from the dead
we become the living
we've come back to reclaim our stolen breath"

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:43:46 -0500, kurt wismer <kurtw@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

not to mention out own antivirus systems which would also contribute
to that level of infection through our digestive systems.

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http://www.ik-cs.com |AVP 3.5 - [On Demand]
no snake oil here! |Sygate Personal Firewall 5 professional
|Forte Agent 2
|Eudora 6.2 (Paid)

ahh yes, wrong virus. Sorry. _comp_virus , I should have noticed that.
I got this group among several medical groups when I searched.

Although ... I wonder whether I would have got more and better answers
in
alt.health or sci.med or such.
Len, Roger,Kurt answered anyway :-)

entering through the mouth - I thought maybe through the gums, no need
to go through acid stomach.

1st link, I printed but found nothing with keyword nose,eyes
2nd link seems to be about bacteria, not virii

keyboard in internet-cafe : yes, you should probably desinfect your
hands
before/after using it or use gloves (that also prevents the police
from getting
your fingerprint ;-) hmm, spreading computer-virii is illegal but
flu-virii
not ?!

-Guenter.

ahh yes, wrong virus. Sorry. _comp_virus , I should have noticed that.
I got this group among several medical groups when I searched.

Although ... I wonder whether I would have got more and better answers
in
alt.health or sci.med or such.
Len, Roger,Kurt answered anyway :-)

entering through the mouth - I thought maybe through the gums, no need
to go through acid stomach.

1st link, I printed but found nothing with keyword nose,eyes
2nd link seems to be about bacteria, not virii

keyboard in internet-cafe : yes, you should probably desinfect your
hands
before/after using it or use gloves (that also prevents the police
from getting
your fingerprint ;-) hmm, spreading computer-virii is illegal but
flu-virii
not ?!

-Guenter.

"Ian JP Kenefick" <ian_kenefick@eircom.net> wrote in message
news:n3p13196fv0mtn1m9ol5pcgreltisb0i7r@4ax.com...
....and it could be that the antivirus system, in combatting the virus,
creates the symptoms (such as sneezing) and actually helps expell and
spread the virus to new hosts like email bouncing malware to new
prospective hosts. At least in the malware instance we can do much to
supress the sneezing.

Are we back on topic yet?

"guenter stertenbrink" <sterten@aol.com> wrote in message
news:91d98ce0.0503110411.6c330328@posting.google.c om...
Right, you sneeze and people say things like "bless you" but if you give
them a computer virus they want to hang you by the testicles.

On 11 Mar 2005 04:11:55 -0800, sterten@aol.com (guenter stertenbrink)
wrote:

Excessive cleanliness can be a bad thing. It doesn't give your immune
system time to slowly build up immunities to viral infectors. I mean
obsessive as in H.Hughes.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:52:05 -0800, Bart Bailey <me2@privacy.net>
wrote:

Hey Bart. You might be interested in this:

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg/QWIKDEMO.ZIP

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:32:32 -0800, Bart Bailey <me2@privacy.net>
wrote:

SMAs are quite good. That TDR shot was not a test for SMA quality, as
such, since one port was open (not terminated). I don't recall
anything about type N in particular. I do recall that BNCs were
lousy.

Into bench testing your PC for number crunching speed? Try this:

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg/QWIKTEST.ZIP

My 1.6 ghz AMD Duron running at 1.8 takes 2 seconds. My 900 mhz
PIII takes 6.7 sec. And my PII 330 mhz took 13.4 sec.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:52:05 -0800, Bart Bailey <me2@privacy.net>
wrote:

conditions is almost impossible. The point being many of the
infectors that may get into your system can't cause damage do to pre
existing immunity.