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Posted by mark on March 7th, 2004


how do you turn off the stupid popups in messenger service

Posted by Dave Patrick on March 7th, 2004


By installing a properly configured firewall.

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"mark" wrote:
| how do you turn off the stupid popups in messenger service


Posted by Josef Stalin on March 7th, 2004




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Comrade Markski,

Start->Settings->Control Panel->Admin Tools->Services

Scroll down to 'Messenger'
Double left mouse click
Change 'Startup' type to 'Disabled'
Reboot or stop the the messenger services.

You might also want to do the same with 'Indexing' while you're at it.

Uncle Joe

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Posted by Dave Patrick on March 7th, 2004


IMO bad advice. The popups are an indication of a missing or improperly
configured firewall. Masking the popups does nothing for the vulnerability
the OP is apparently exposed to.

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"Josef Stalin" wrote:
| Comrade Markski,
|
| Start->Settings->Control Panel->Admin Tools->Services
|
| Scroll down to 'Messenger'
| Double left mouse click
| Change 'Startup' type to 'Disabled'
| Reboot or stop the the messenger services.
|
| You might also want to do the same with 'Indexing' while you're at it.
|
| Uncle Joe
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| Take the "NiceGuy" out of FatherNiceGuyJosefStalin@Yahoo.Com to respond
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|


Posted by Tritium on March 7th, 2004



Dave Patrick wrote:


Well...the advice about turning off messenger service is
equivocal. If it were not for the bad behavior throughout
the 'net and this particular service being exploited for
nefarious popups, installing a firewall would not have
been necessary in the first place. IMO, messenger service
should be confined to any particular machine and not be
triggered from the outside. Microsoft needs to fix this!


Posted by Bruce Chambers on March 7th, 2004


Greetings --

Does the title bar of these pop-ups read "Messenger Service?"

This type of spam has become quite common over the past several
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats, such as the Blaster Worm that
recently swept cross the Internet. Install and use a decent,
properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger
service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does
little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just
"putting up with" the security gap represented by these messages is
particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default...B;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...e/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Whichever firewall you decide upon, be sure to ensure
UDP ports 135, 137, and 138 and TCP ports 135, 139, and 445 are _all_
blocked. You may also disable Inbound NetBIOS (NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
You'll have to follow the instructions from firewall's manufacturer
for the specific steps.

You can test your firewall at:

Symantec Security Check
http://security.symantec.com/ssc/vr_...BYNCJEIMXQKCDT

Security Scan - Sygate Online Services
http://www.sygatetech.com/

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?


Bruce Chambers
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Posted by Bruce Chambers on March 7th, 2004


Greetings --

And how, precisely, does turning off the messenger service stop
W32.Blaster.Worm? Using a firewall stops both the spam and the worm;
turning off the messenger service stops nothing but the security
warnings that the spam represents.

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Posted by Bruce Chambers on March 7th, 2004


Greetings --

I realize that you're trying to help, and that such an intent is
commendable, but please don't post potentially harmful advice.

Disabling the messenger service, you advised, is a "treat the
symptoms" approach to computer security that still leaves the PC
vulnerable to threats such as the W32.Blaster.Worm.

The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert.
The true problem is the unsecured computer, and your only advice,
however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings.

Equivalent Scenario: Pulling the battery out of a noisy smoke
detector instead of seeking and eliminating the source of the smoke
that set it off.

The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good.


Bruce Chambers
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