- ADAM and AD 2000
- Posted by Trev on November 27th, 2003
We have implemented a flat structured Windows 2000 Active Directory to manage our Domain accounts.
We now have a requirement to implement a staff directory reflecting our organisational structure (geography as well as management structure).
ADAM (Active Directory Application Mode) looks like a good solution but I need to know whether replication between AD 2000 and ADAM 2003 is possible.
Ideally, creating a new user account in AD would create a skeletal account in our ADAM.
Any ideas?
Trev
- Posted by Brian Desmond [MVP] on November 27th, 2003
Trev,
To the best of my knowledge, you can't replicate from an AD domain to ADAM.
Just between ADAM instances.
My question for you is why aren't you just storing directory information in
the user attributes in AD?
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- Posted by Eric Fleischman [MSFT] on November 28th, 2003
Actually not true Brian. It depends upon what you are trying to replicate.
For that though it would be considered an interforest replication, so you'd
need to use either the Identity Integration Feature Pack (search for that on
the web...it's a free download) or MIIS.
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- Posted by Brian Desmond [MVP] on November 30th, 2003
Interesting. How would I connect an ADAM instance to the domain as a DC?
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- Posted by Eric Fleischman [MSFT] on November 30th, 2003
I didn't say you could do that. :-)
ADAM would be a directory service that provides some services separately
from the domain. It wouldn't be a DC (as ADAM only hosts NDNCs) but one
could replicate some subset of the data from AD to ADAM.
My point was only that the statement 'you can't replicate from AD to ADAM'
strictly speaking isn't true. Much like you can use MIIS and/or the Identity
Integration Feature Pack to replicate from one forst to another, you can use
it to replicate from AD to ADAM (or the other way).
Think of the ADAM instance barrier much like you do an AD forest boundary,
just with no domains....all NDNCs.
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- Posted by Trev on December 1st, 2003
Thanks for this, this at least gives me some hope and a starting point.
We are nervous about adding attributes to our domain AD as in our environment, that would be classified a major infrastructure change.
Since we have a number of applications in the pipeline that require similar but subtly different user attributes, ADAM looks like the way to go.
Trev
- Posted by Eric Fleischman [MSFT] on December 1st, 2003
Definitely check it out and report back with questions/problems/thoughts. If
nothing else I like hearing about the progress even if there is no question.
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- Posted by Dean Wells [MVP] on December 1st, 2003
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Eric,
Though little more than a matter of semantics, personally, I'd have to
disagree on your choice of phraseology. Although the definition of
replication is product/scenario specific, within the context of Active
Directory and ADAM (and many other Directory Services implementations),
"replication" is most commonly defined as the process or means by which
the changed components of a database are copied to a second (or more)
_duplicate_ instance of the same database. The process of coalescing
disparate objects from disparate databases into a single unified
representation is more commonly referred to as "synchronization" or a
"join" operation.
Within the context of this thread, I'd personally refer to it as
"synchronization".
As I mentioned, it really does come down to personal opinion and
experience ... this is mine. 
Hope you're well Eric!
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- Posted by Eric Fleischman [MSFT] on December 1st, 2003
Point on phrasing taken. There was the original spirit of the post in which
Trev didn't use either phrase, but with the spirit of his question it can be
done. You can disagree with my phrasing, but my solution still stands true.
:-)
dictionary.com says the following for replication (definition #5):
"A copy or reproduction."
I see no mention of the same/different GUID on dictionary.com for some
strange reason <g>
All's well here, just getting the hang of the new diggs (CPR) and sitting
and wading throught he code all day. Hope all is well by you.
~Eric
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- Posted by Dean Wells [MVP] on December 1st, 2003
Eric Fleischman [MSFT] wrote:
LOL ... I have no disagreement with your solution, just a difference of
opinion with your choice of wording. Most MS documentation with which
I'm familiar distinctly separates the two (possibly for little more than
the sake of clarity) but it is most certainly product and scenario
specific, the dictionary.com definition is neither of those since it
defines the result not the process.
The original post was not the focus of my response, I was commenting
solely on the phraseology aspect and your comment to Brian.
Hope CPR is treating you well!
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