Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names it shows
only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even though I have
selected:
Dispay the full path in the address bar
Dispay the full path in the title bar]
Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible short file
names.
W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this capability
away!!!
Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
Thanks for any help.
Ron Manly

Let me see if I have this straight.

Opening documents in WordPad:
You have files with long filenames, but WordPad only appears to recognize
them by their short filenames? (All files in FAT-based file systems have
both long filenames and "DOS 8.3 format" short filenames are generated
automatically.)

Saving documents in WordPad:
Here's where I'm unclear. When using SaveAs to save an existing document
with a new name, it is natural for WordPad to default to the existing
filename. If the 8.3 format name is what it is seeing, this would account
for that behavior. But do I read you correctly that you *can't* change the
name to a long filename (or can, but it saves it in 8.3 format, anyway),
and/or that when you save a changed document, it automatically loses the
long filename and only saves the 8.3 format name?

Is this effect *only* noticeable in WordPad? Not in NotePad, for instance,
or MS Paint, or any other program? If so, I'd uninstall and reinstall
WordPad. Start, Settings, Add/Remove Programs, Windows Setup tab,
Accessories, Details. Uncheck WordPad, click OK twice, then restart your
machine (just to be sure.) Then go back and reinstall it.

If other programs are doing the same thing, that's a weird one, and I'm not
sure where to go. Have to think about it (or ask Chris Quirke, the file
system guru.)

Question: Have you installed an alternative text editor to replace Notepad?

--
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MS MVP for Windows 9x

ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:

This old W95 article is all I know about this,
other than that I do remember a very long discussion
about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857

That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using a Send To
shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used. However, IIRC
when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and then either type
in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse and point it
back at the original LFN file.

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"Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
|
| > ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| > > Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names it
| > > shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even though
| > > I have selected:
| > > Dispay the full path in the address bar
| > > Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| > > Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible short
| > > file names.
| > > W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this capability
| > > away!!!
| > > Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| > > Thanks for any help.
| > > Ron Manly
|
| This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
|
| Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
|
|

Using SendTo instead of OpenWith? Interesting trick, <s>.

Thank you both for you input. Always fun to gang up on a problem!

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MS MVP for Windows 9x

George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:

Not only with Wordpad either. That Send To shortcut can be problematic (with
long filenames) in some other programs, as I recall.

George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:

YW. Send To is your friend, or was that Google? <g> In this case, unless you
know the work-around for file names people experience exactly what the OP did.
It's just the way OLE handled it back when WordPad was written. Remember that
WordPad is old enough to grow whiskers now.

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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23gMuamIAEHA.2632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Using SendTo instead of OpenWith? Interesting trick, <s>.
|
| Thank you both for you input. Always fun to gang up on a problem!
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP for Windows 9x
|
| George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
| > That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using
| > a Send To shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be
| > used. However, IIRC when you save the file, instead of using Save,
| > use Save As and then either type in the file name enclosing it in
| > double quotes or use the browse and point it back at the original LFN
| > file.
| >
| >
| > "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| > news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>
| >>> ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| >>>> Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names it
| >>>> shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even
| >>>> though I have selected:
| >>>> Dispay the full path in the address bar
| >>>> Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| >>>> Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible
| >>>> short file names.
| >>>> W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
| >>>> capability away!!!
| >>>> Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| >>>> Thanks for any help.
| >>>> Ron Manly
| >>
| >> This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| >> other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| >> about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| >>
| >> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| >> Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857

Correct you are. I seem to recall you being a major contributor to the afore
mentioned thread. <g>

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"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23Ij9wvIAEHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Not only with Wordpad either. That Send To shortcut can be problematic (with
| long filenames) in some other programs, as I recall.
|
| George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
| > That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using a Send
| > To shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used. However,
| > IIRC when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and then
| > either type in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse
| > and point it back at the original LFN file.
| >
| > --
| > ____________________________________
| > George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| >
| > http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| >
| > "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| > news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>
| >>> ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| >>>> Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names it
| >>>> shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even though
| >>>> I have selected:
| >>>> Dispay the full path in the address bar
| >>>> Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| >>>> Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible short
| >>>> file names.
| >>>> W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this capability
| >>>> away!!!
| >>>> Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| >>>> Thanks for any help.
| >>>> Ron Manly
| >>
| >> This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| >> other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| >> about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| >>
| >> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| >> Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
|
|

I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or something
in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties field?

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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
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pcrrcp@netzero.net
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using
a Send To
| shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
However, IIRC
| when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and then
either type
| in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse and
point it
| back at the original LFN file.
|
| --
| ____________________________________
| George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
|
| http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
|
| "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| |
| | > ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| | > > Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names
it
| | > > shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even
though
| | > > I have selected:
| | > > Dispay the full path in the address bar
| | > > Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| | > > Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible
short
| | > > file names.
| | > > W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
capability
| | > > away!!!
| | > > Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| | > > Thanks for any help.
| | > > Ron Manly
| |
| | This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| | other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| | about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| |
| | Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| | Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
| |
| |
|

%L

Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by clicking
on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb command.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"

%1 passes the short name.

C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

So what we need to do is find an equivalent way to do this in the registry for
the "Send To" function. (Yeah, I know, dream on....)

Bill Blanton wrote:

Yeah, I think so. I forgot which other apps I had had problems with Send To
(used the short file names only). Maybe it was MMJB, can't remember now.

George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:

Should be able to do it by including the %L in the shortcut.

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"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uLNCOELAEHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| So what we need to do is find an equivalent way to do this in the registry for
| the "Send To" function. (Yeah, I know, dream on....)
|
| Bill Blanton wrote:
| > %L
| >
| > Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by clicking
| > on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb command.
| >
| > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| > C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"
| >
| > %1 passes the short name.
| >
| > C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| >
| >
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >> I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or something
| >> in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties field?
| >>
| >> --
| >> Thanks or Good Luck,
| >> There may be humor in this post, and,
| >> Naturally, you will not sue,
| >> should things get worse after this,
| >> PCR
| >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >> "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| >> news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>> That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using
| >> a Send To
| >>> shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
| >> However, IIRC
| >>> when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and then
| >> either type
| >>> in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse and
| >> point it
| >>> back at the original LFN file.
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> ____________________________________
| >>> George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| >>>
| >>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| >>>
| >>> "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| >>> news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>>>
| >>>>> ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| >>>>>> Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names
| >> it
| >>>>>> shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even
| >> though
| >>>>>> I have selected:
| >>>>>> Dispay the full path in the address bar
| >>>>>> Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| >>>>>> Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible
| >> short
| >>>>>> file names.
| >>>>>> W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
| >> capability
| >>>>>> away!!!
| >>>>>> Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| >>>>>> Thanks for any help.
| >>>>>> Ron Manly
| >>>>
| >>>> This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| >>>> other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| >>>> about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| >>>>
| >>>> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| >>>> Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
|
|

Uh-oh. I created "New WordPad Document.doc" on the Desktop & clicked it.
It opened in Wordpad with the LFN in the title. Also, the File menu
shows the LFN, and Save As shows it as well. All this, and...

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wordpad.Document.1\shell\open\co mmand
(Default) C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"

"Folder Options, File Types tab, Wordpad Document, Edit button,
highlight Open, Edit button". That also is...
C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
(Default) C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"

....Write Document in Folder Options...
C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"


%L% does appear in my Registry 127 times. The huge majority of them deal
with WMP; the rest, ddeexec. So spake Registry Detective!

--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
news:ORR5sdKAEHA.1468@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| %L
|
| Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by clicking
| on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb command.
|
| HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"
|
| %1 passes the short name.
|
| C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or
something
| > in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties field?
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| > news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When
using
| > a Send To
| > | shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
| > However, IIRC
| > | when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and
then
| > either type
| > | in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse
and
| > point it
| > | back at the original LFN file.
| > |
| > | --
| > | ____________________________________
| > | George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| > |
| > | http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| > |
| > | "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| > | news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | |
| > | | > ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| > | | > > Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar
names
| > it
| > | | > > shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it
[even
| > though
| > | | > > I have selected:
| > | | > > Dispay the full path in the address bar
| > | | > > Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| > | | > > Worse yet it wants to save the files with those
unintelligible
| > short
| > | | > > file names.
| > | | > > W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
| > capability
| > | | > > away!!!
| > | | > > Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| > | | > > Thanks for any help.
| > | | > > Ron Manly
| > | |
| > | | This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| > | | other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| > | | about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| > | |
| > | | Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| > | | Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| > | | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
| > | |
| > | |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

George:
Here is the shortcut to wordpad:
Target: "C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE"
Start in: "C:\Program Files\Accessories"
How would you put it in there, and have it work properly? (Did you try it
out?).

George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:

I don't even have WordPad installed Bill. I use other apps including a text
editor that will open large files.
Target. "C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE" "%L"
should do it. If not post back and I'll install WordPad and check again.

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"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eubXpnMAEHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| George:
| Here is the shortcut to wordpad:
| Target: "C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE"
| Start in: "C:\Program Files\Accessories"
| How would you put it in there, and have it work properly? (Did you try it
| out?).
|
| George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
| > Should be able to do it by including the %L in the shortcut.
| >
| > --
| > ____________________________________
| > George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| >
| > http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| >
| > "Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > news:uLNCOELAEHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >> So what we need to do is find an equivalent way to do this in the registry
| >> for the "Send To" function. (Yeah, I know, dream on....)
| >>
| >> Bill Blanton wrote:
| >>> %L
| >>>
| >>> Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by clicking
| >>> on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb command.
| >>>
| >>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| >>> C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"
| >>>
| >>> %1 passes the short name.
| >>>
| >>> C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| >>> news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >>>> I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or something
| >>>> in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties field?
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
| >>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
| >>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
| >>>> should things get worse after this,
| >>>> PCR
| >>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >>>> "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| >>>> news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>>>> That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When using
| >>>> a Send To
| >>>>> shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
| >>>> However, IIRC
| >>>>> when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and then
| >>>>> either type in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the
| >>>>> browse and point it back at the original LFN file.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ____________________________________
| >>>>> George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| >>>>>
| >>>>> http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| >>>>>
| >>>>> "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| >>>>> news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| >>>>>>>> Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar names
| >>>> it
| >>>>>>>> shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it [even
| >>>> though
| >>>>>>>> I have selected:
| >>>>>>>> Dispay the full path in the address bar
| >>>>>>>> Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| >>>>>>>> Worse yet it wants to save the files with those unintelligible
| >>>> short
| >>>>>>>> file names.
| >>>>>>>> W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
| >>>> capability
| >>>>>>>> away!!!
| >>>>>>>> Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| >>>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
| >>>>>>>> Ron Manly
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| >>>>>> other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| >>>>>> about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| >>>>>> Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
|
|

It works fine if you open it directly. The problem is in the drag and drop
handler. %1 does not work in that case. You have to use %L (note that I am
using the uppercase L only to differentiate from the numeral 1

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eqxUJMNAEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Uh-oh. I created "New WordPad Document.doc" on the Desktop & clicked it.
| It opened in Wordpad with the LFN in the title. Also, the File menu
| shows the LFN, and Save As shows it as well. All this, and...
|
| HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wordpad.Document.1\shell\open\co mmand
| (Default) C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
|
| "Folder Options, File Types tab, Wordpad Document, Edit button,
| highlight Open, Edit button". That also is...
| C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
|
| HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| (Default) C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
|
| ...Write Document in Folder Options...
| C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
|
|
| %L% does appear in my Registry 127 times. The huge majority of them deal
| with WMP; the rest, ddeexec. So spake Registry Detective!
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
| news:ORR5sdKAEHA.1468@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | %L
| |
| | Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by clicking
| | on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb command.
| |
| | HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| | C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"
| |
| | %1 passes the short name.
| |
| | C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| |
| |
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | > I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or
| something
| | > in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties field?
| | >
| | > --
| | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| | > should things get worse after this,
| | > PCR
| | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | > "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| | > news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | > | That discussion was in this group and I remember it well. When
| using
| | > a Send To
| | > | shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
| | > However, IIRC
| | > | when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and
| then
| | > either type
| | > | in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the browse
| and
| | > point it
| | > | back at the original LFN file.
| | > |
| | > | --
| | > | ____________________________________
| | > | George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| | > |
| | > | http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| | > |
| | > | "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| | > | news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | > | |
| | > | | > ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| | > | | > > Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with similar
| names
| | > it
| | > | | > > shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it
| [even
| | > though
| | > | | > > I have selected:
| | > | | > > Dispay the full path in the address bar
| | > | | > > Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| | > | | > > Worse yet it wants to save the files with those
| unintelligible
| | > short
| | > | | > > file names.
| | > | | > > W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes this
| | > capability
| | > | | > > away!!!
| | > | | > > Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this way?
| | > | | > > Thanks for any help.
| | > | | > > Ron Manly
| | > | |
| | > | | This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| | > | | other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| | > | | about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| | > | |
| | > | | Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| | > | | Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| | > | | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
| | > | |
| | > | |
| | > |
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

All I said was that the SFN was "passed" if %1. The app can get the
LFN from that if it wants.


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:eqxUJMNAEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Blanton, you're off the hook, then.

Dundat, I opened an empty Wordpad instance & dropped the document onto
the Title bar. Result: same as before. LFNs are in all those places.

Next I put a shortcut into "C:\Windows\SendTo\", Target...
"C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE"

OK, fine! That one is only getting SFN's. But I couldn't get...
"C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE" "%L"
....to work.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
news:%23fivfPNAEHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| It works fine if you open it directly. The problem is in the drag and
drop
| handler. %1 does not work in that case. You have to use %L (note that
I am
| using the uppercase L only to differentiate from the numeral 1
|
| --
| ____________________________________
| George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
|
| http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eqxUJMNAEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| | Uh-oh. I created "New WordPad Document.doc" on the Desktop & clicked
it.
| | It opened in Wordpad with the LFN in the title. Also, the File menu
| | shows the LFN, and Save As shows it as well. All this, and...
| |
| | HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wordpad.Document.1\shell\open\co mmand
| | (Default) C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| |
| | "Folder Options, File Types tab, Wordpad Document, Edit button,
| | highlight Open, Edit button". That also is...
| | C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| |
| | HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| | (Default) C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| |
| | ...Write Document in Folder Options...
| | C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| |
| |
| | %L% does appear in my Registry 127 times. The huge majority of them
deal
| | with WMP; the rest, ddeexec. So spake Registry Detective!
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
| | news:ORR5sdKAEHA.1468@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | | %L
| | |
| | | Explorer will pass the long name when you "open" a file by
clicking
| | | on the file if %L is specified in the registry's open verb
command.
| | |
| | | HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\rtffile\shell\open\command
| | | C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%L"
| | |
| | | %1 passes the short name.
| | |
| | | C:\Progra~1\Access~1\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
| | |
| | |
| | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| | news:O#62YSKAEHA.3048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | | > I thought you subsequently came up with a fix, using "/L" or
| | something
| | | > in a Folders Options field or was it in a Shortcut Properties
field?
| | | >
| | | > --
| | | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| | | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| | | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| | | > should things get worse after this,
| | | > PCR
| | | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| | | > "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| | | > news:%23dLKvbIAEHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | | > | That discussion was in this group and I remember it well.
When
| | using
| | | > a Send To
| | | > | shortcut to open a file in Wordpad only the SFN will be used.
| | | > However, IIRC
| | | > | when you save the file, instead of using Save, use Save As and
| | then
| | | > either type
| | | > | in the file name enclosing it in double quotes or use the
browse
| | and
| | | > point it
| | | > | back at the original LFN file.
| | | > |
| | | > | --
| | | > | ____________________________________
| | | > | George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
| | | > |
| | | > | http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi
| | | > |
| | | > | "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
| | | > | news:u8s24SIAEHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | | > | |
| | | > | | > ronmanly@nowhere.com wrote:
| | | > | | > > Everytime I open one of several wordpad files with
similar
| | names
| | | > it
| | | > | | > > shows only an unintelligible short filename [~n] for it
| | [even
| | | > though
| | | > | | > > I have selected:
| | | > | | > > Dispay the full path in the address bar
| | | > | | > > Dispay the full path in the title bar]
| | | > | | > > Worse yet it wants to save the files with those
| | unintelligible
| | | > short
| | | > | | > > file names.
| | | > | | > > W95 allowed you to use long file names, but W98 takes
this
| | | > capability
| | | > | | > > away!!!
| | | > | | > > Is there anyway I can prevent W98 from behaving this
way?
| | | > | | > > Thanks for any help.
| | | > | | > > Ron Manly
| | | > | |
| | | > | | This old W95 article is all I know about this,
| | | > | | other than that I do remember a very long discussion
| | | > | | about this in this group or the W95 group a while back.
| | | > | |
| | | > | | Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 171857
| | | > | | Long File Name Lost After Using Send To Command with WordPad
| | | > | |
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;171857
| | | > | |
| | | > | |
| | | > |
| | | >
| | | >
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|

Well, after messing with it... Using SendTo is the *only* way I get the SFN
issue on my 98SE machine, and using %L does *not* remedy it.

Even when the SFN issue is present, Saving does not lose the LFN. It just
shows in teh title bar, and is the default in a SaveAs procedure.

Gonna go watch election returns and see how much more the tax bill will be
next year.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
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