I just had to rebuild my Win98SE system from scratch. This box is being used
as a proxy/firewall for my home network. I installed win98 and then win98SE
as usual with no problems. I then installed Winproxy and got everthing to
working as it should. This box has 2 NIC cards - one talking to the cable
modem and the other talking to the internal network. During the process of
setting things up I had occasion to shutdown and reboot the box several
times with nary a problem.

Not being one to let well enough alone, I went through the Windows update
process and installed all of the security updates except the one for IE6.
Now, when I shutdown the box I get the win32 dialog box message: YOU MUST
QUIT THIS PROGRAM BEFOIRE YOU CAN QUIT WINDOWS - CLICK OK TO QUIT THE
PROGRAM AND WINDOWS. I click OK and after several seconds the PROGRAM NOT
RESPONDING dialog box pops up so I click END PROGRAM and then the original
YOU MUST QUIT... message appeqrs again, I press OK, several seconds elapse,
the PROGRAM NOT RESPONDING dialog box pops up, I select END PROGRAM for the
second time and the box then shuts down normally.

Through trial and error I have found that if I kill the WINOA386.MOD
processes (there are two of them running), the box will shutdown normally. I
did not have this problem when I set up the system for the first time
several months ago. and I didn't have the problem this time until the
updates were installed. What does WINOA386.MOD do and would it have anything
to do with the NIC cards which did in fact give me some grief trying to get
them installed...is their presence a function of the something in the update
or am I misleading myself?

I can't find anything on the web about this problem and am hoping one of the
experts here might be able to help or point me in the right direction.

many thanks for any feedback.

"Winoldap" in Win9x is WINOA386.MOD, in the Windows\System folder.
It is a support file used to run DOS-based programs under Windows...."old apps". It
should load when the DOS program is running, and should close when it is done. The
DOS program may be poorly written, or not closing normally, and that is leaving
Winoldap open, not responding, or causing a conflict. Try to find what DOS-based program is
responsible.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:MYuYb.7648$tL3.6364@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
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"Winoldap" in Win9x is WINOA386.MOD, in the Windows\System folder.
It is a support file used to run DOS-based programs under Windows...."old
apps". It
should load when the DOS program is running, and should close when it is
done. The
DOS program may be poorly written, or not closing normally, and that is
leaving
Winoldap open, not responding, or causing a conflict. Try to find what
DOS-based program is
responsible.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MYuYb.7648$tL3.6364@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
Thanks for the feedback. The only things running on this box are Win98 SE
and Winproxy...as far as I can tell there are no running DOS programs. Could
drivers be considered as "DOS programs"? I ask because, as I mentioned
earlier, there are two NIC cards in the box and I did have some difficulty
getting them installed...might I have installed "dos drivers" for these
cards - that would explain the two instances of winoa386.mod?

thanks

Does "WINOA386.MOD" show up immediately after boot? Then, examine your
Startup Group for a DOS app...

"START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup Programs".

If you don't see it, then use the Edit menu to select all & copy, & post
it. (Edit the output & put spaces between the lines before posting.)

Also, "START, Run, SysEdit", & post Autoexec.bat.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OMyYWvk9DHA.1672@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
|
| "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| news:OJN4Qmd9DHA.1804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| "Winoldap" in Win9x is WINOA386.MOD, in the Windows\System folder.
| It is a support file used to run DOS-based programs under
Windows...."old
| apps". It
| should load when the DOS program is running, and should close when it
is
| done. The
| DOS program may be poorly written, or not closing normally, and that
is
| leaving
| Winoldap open, not responding, or causing a conflict. Try to find
what
| DOS-based program is
| responsible.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:MYuYb.7648$tL3.6364@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
| > I just had to rebuild my Win98SE system from scratch. This box is
being
| used
| > as a proxy/firewall for my home network. I installed win98 and then
| win98SE
| > as usual with no problems. I then installed Winproxy and got
everthing to
| > working as it should. This box has 2 NIC cards - one talking to the
cable
| > modem and the other talking to the internal network. During the
process of
| > setting things up I had occasion to shutdown and reboot the box
several
| > times with nary a problem.
| >
| > Not being one to let well enough alone, I went through the Windows
update
| > process and installed all of the security updates except the one for
IE6.
| > Now, when I shutdown the box I get the win32 dialog box message: YOU
MUST
| > QUIT THIS PROGRAM BEFOIRE YOU CAN QUIT WINDOWS - CLICK OK TO QUIT
THE
| > PROGRAM AND WINDOWS. I click OK and after several seconds the
PROGRAM NOT
| > RESPONDING dialog box pops up so I click END PROGRAM and then the
original
| > YOU MUST QUIT... message appeqrs again, I press OK, several seconds
| elapse,
| > the PROGRAM NOT RESPONDING dialog box pops up, I select END PROGRAM
for
| the
| > second time and the box then shuts down normally.
| >
| > Through trial and error I have found that if I kill the WINOA386.MOD
| > processes (there are two of them running), the box will shutdown
normally.
| I
| > did not have this problem when I set up the system for the first
time
| > several months ago. and I didn't have the problem this time until
the
| > updates were installed. What does WINOA386.MOD do and would it have
| anything
| > to do with the NIC cards which did in fact give me some grief trying
to
| get
| > them installed...is their presence a function of the something in
the
| update
| > or am I misleading myself?
| >
| > I can't find anything on the web about this problem and am hoping
one of
| the
| > experts here might be able to help or point me in the right
direction.
| >
| > many thanks for any feedback.
| >
| >
|
| Thanks for the feedback. The only things running on this box are Win98
SE
| and Winproxy...as far as I can tell there are no running DOS programs.
Could
| drivers be considered as "DOS programs"? I ask because, as I mentioned
| earlier, there are two NIC cards in the box and I did have some
difficulty
| getting them installed...might I have installed "dos drivers" for
these
| cards - that would explain the two instances of winoa386.mod?
|
| thanks
|
|

Some DOS app is running in the background.
Start>Run>msinfo32, check the 16-bit modules running, and applications running.

I also suggest a clean boot for troubleshooting:

How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926

"CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...P12.phx. .gbl
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OMyYWvk9DHA.1672@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Gentlemen...thanks for your help. I hate it when this happens but the
problem no longer exists and I have no idea why but I'm not going to argue
with success. Winproxy seems to have, presumably on its own, changed the way
it operates...it doesn't even show up in the task list now when you select
CTRL/ALT/DEL...the only thing there is explorer. Winproxy is running just
fine and keeping the virii at bay and my network invisible to the outside
world.

<shrug>




"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:#oaSsSm9DHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

You won't get an argument from me, either. It is possible for a Windows
app to open a DOS box. NetZero will do it when I click... search, I
thought (but not this time). Anyway, perhaps it is so with Winproxy as
well.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:H8AZb.3224$aT1.1088@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
| Gentlemen...thanks for your help. I hate it when this happens but the
| problem no longer exists and I have no idea why but I'm not going to
argue
| with success. Winproxy seems to have, presumably on its own, changed
the way
| it operates...it doesn't even show up in the task list now when you
select
| CTRL/ALT/DEL...the only thing there is explorer. Winproxy is running
just
| fine and keeping the virii at bay and my network invisible to the
outside
| world.
|
| <shrug>
|
|
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:#oaSsSm9DHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > Does "WINOA386.MOD" show up immediately after boot? Then, examine
your
| > Startup Group for a DOS app...
| >
| > "START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup Programs".
| >
| > If you don't see it, then use the Edit menu to select all & copy, &
post
| > it. (Edit the output & put spaces between the lines before posting.)
| >
| > Also, "START, Run, SysEdit", & post Autoexec.bat.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:OMyYWvk9DHA.1672@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > |
| > | "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
| > | news:OJN4Qmd9DHA.1804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | "Winoldap" in Win9x is WINOA386.MOD, in the Windows\System folder.
| > | It is a support file used to run DOS-based programs under
| > Windows...."old
| > | apps". It
| > | should load when the DOS program is running, and should close when
it
| > is
| > | done. The
| > | DOS program may be poorly written, or not closing normally, and
that
| > is
| > | leaving
| > | Winoldap open, not responding, or causing a conflict. Try to find
| > what
| > | DOS-based program is
| > | responsible.
| > | --
| > | Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| > | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > |
| > |
| > | "Jim Wray" <jgwray@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:MYuYb.7648$tL3.6364@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
| > | > I just had to rebuild my Win98SE system from scratch. This box
is
| > being
| > | used
| > | > as a proxy/firewall for my home network. I installed win98 and
then
| > | win98SE
| > | > as usual with no problems. I then installed Winproxy and got
| > everthing to
| > | > working as it should. This box has 2 NIC cards - one talking to
the
| > cable
| > | > modem and the other talking to the internal network. During the
| > process of
| > | > setting things up I had occasion to shutdown and reboot the box
| > several
| > | > times with nary a problem.
| > | >
| > | > Not being one to let well enough alone, I went through the
Windows
| > update
| > | > process and installed all of the security updates except the one
for
| > IE6.
| > | > Now, when I shutdown the box I get the win32 dialog box message:
YOU
| > MUST
| > | > QUIT THIS PROGRAM BEFOIRE YOU CAN QUIT WINDOWS - CLICK OK TO
QUIT
| > THE
| > | > PROGRAM AND WINDOWS. I click OK and after several seconds the
| > PROGRAM NOT
| > | > RESPONDING dialog box pops up so I click END PROGRAM and then
the
| > original
| > | > YOU MUST QUIT... message appeqrs again, I press OK, several
seconds
| > | elapse,
| > | > the PROGRAM NOT RESPONDING dialog box pops up, I select END
PROGRAM
| > for
| > | the
| > | > second time and the box then shuts down normally.
| > | >
| > | > Through trial and error I have found that if I kill the
WINOA386.MOD
| > | > processes (there are two of them running), the box will shutdown
| > normally.
| > | I
| > | > did not have this problem when I set up the system for the first
| > time
| > | > several months ago. and I didn't have the problem this time
until
| > the
| > | > updates were installed. What does WINOA386.MOD do and would it
have
| > | anything
| > | > to do with the NIC cards which did in fact give me some grief
trying
| > to
| > | get
| > | > them installed...is their presence a function of the something
in
| > the
| > | update
| > | > or am I misleading myself?
| > | >
| > | > I can't find anything on the web about this problem and am
hoping
| > one of
| > | the
| > | > experts here might be able to help or point me in the right
| > direction.
| > | >
| > | > many thanks for any feedback.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Thanks for the feedback. The only things running on this box are
Win98
| > SE
| > | and Winproxy...as far as I can tell there are no running DOS
programs.
| > Could
| > | drivers be considered as "DOS programs"? I ask because, as I
mentioned
| > | earlier, there are two NIC cards in the box and I did have some
| > difficulty
| > | getting them installed...might I have installed "dos drivers" for
| > these
| > | cards - that would explain the two instances of winoa386.mod?
| > |
| > | thanks
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|