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Problems with Scan Disc and Disc Defragmenter
Posted by Rob on November 7th, 2003


I have been having various problems with running both
these applications. I close down all the programmes I can
see are runnung, and turn off the screensaver, yet they
always gets to a certain point and then restart. I was
instructed that on alt+ctrl+del would show all the other
running programmes, but warned that closing some of them
down will cause problems with my P.C next time I reboot.
So is anybody aware of what programmes need to be closed
so that I can (after at least a couple of years) manage to
run these applications. Many thanks

Posted by glee on November 7th, 2003


Ctrl+Alt+Delete and End Task on everything except Explorer and Systray, run the disk utilities, then reboot.

Read more here:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/scandisk.html
and
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/defrag.html

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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Posted by Dapper Dan on November 7th, 2003


Rob
Run your Scan & Defrag in SAFE MODE. Shut down and restart. When you see
the logo, start tapping the F8 key. This will bring up a dark screen with a
number of options. Select #3, SAFE MODE, and this will bring up your
Desktop, in a fuzzy colour. Perform the Scan & Defrag (and nothing else),
and once finished, close and startup in Normal fashion.

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Ctrl+Alt+Delete and End Task on everything except Explorer and Systray, run
the disk utilities, then reboot.

Read more here:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/scandisk.html
and
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/defrag.html

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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Posted by PCR on November 7th, 2003


http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q287914
Articles about Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q286263
Articles about Defrag
http://home.earthlink.net/~bblanton2...efrag/main.htm
This likely will run well. However, one really should discover what is
causing the restarts & permanently disable it.

1. Turn off screen saver (R-Clk Desktop, Properties, Screen Saver--
None)
2. Turn off power management (Control Panel, Power Management-- Always
On,Never,Never,Never)
3. Disable any permanent internet cable connection, perhaps.
4. Suspend Task Scheduler
5. Turn off interfering programs. Use "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2" from
PCMag (below). Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". Note what is
unchecked. Then, go to the General tab & disable the entire Startup
Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot.
Don't forget to re-enable before the next boot.
6. Use "HDValet" from PCMag, or
(a) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete
all offline content, OK, OK"
(b) "START, Run, %TEMP%", & delete all files that will let you. This
will likely be "C:\Windows\Temp". This is best done after a fresh boot,
unless you have not seen the message "Reboot to complete this install".
7. Run Scandisk (Thorough, usually w/o write testing. Check all three
items under "Scandisk, Advanced button, 'Check files for' box". If you
want to be informed as it does a fix, UNcheck "Automatically fix errors"
on the front screen, or look inside "C:\Scandisk.log" afterwards.)
8. "START, Run, Defrag /p /details". Apparently, "/p" Defrags the
unmovables.

The purpose of steps 1-5 is only to prevent constant restarts of
Scandisk & Defrag, if you get them; but DEFINITELY turn off the Virus
Scanner. Scandisk should be done perhaps once a month, and certainly
after every serious crash. Do a Defrag after a sluggish boot or when
this says so:
http://www.pcmag.com/ 's CrackUp, by Gregory A. Wolking & Bob Flanders.
Also, take DiskAction, to determine what is constantly writing to the
HDD, which causes the restarts. Take BHOCop & StartupCop too.

"DiskAction" reports the last 12 processes that access any partition. It
discovered the MS Critical Update Notification Tool was accessing my
HDD every five minutes. It can be uninstalled in "Control Panel,
Add/Remove Programs". Then, occasionally, "START, Windows Update" on
your own.

"BHOCop" found a Browser Helper Object called Wavehelper Class, created
by "Wavetop", that was building a monstrosity of an error log called
"Logit.txt" in here. "START, Find, F/F, Logit.txt"-- see one?

Now, my hard drive is quieter than my mouse. (Of course, I now also have
384 MB RAM, up from an initial 64, eliminating Swap File activity.)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
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| I have been having various problems with running both
| these applications. I close down all the programmes I can
| see are runnung, and turn off the screensaver, yet they
| always gets to a certain point and then restart. I was
| instructed that on alt+ctrl+del would show all the other
| running programmes, but warned that closing some of them
| down will cause problems with my P.C next time I reboot.
| So is anybody aware of what programmes need to be closed
| so that I can (after at least a couple of years) manage to
| run these applications. Many thanks


Posted by on November 26th, 2003


Try Safe Mode.
Restart.
Hold down CTRL key until Safe Mode screen appears.
Scroll down to Safe Mode./
Press Enter.
This restarts the computer.
A fuzzy screen shpould appear.
Disable virus pgms/pop-ups/security pgms.
Disable Wallpaper and Screen Saver.
Perform operation
Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/ScanDisk
Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Disk Defragmenter
My computer takes up to 2.5 to 3 hours.



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