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Registry system was not found. Registry may be inoperable.
Posted by Big Dog on July 23rd, 2003


I deleted the trickler file and then my windows 98 failed
to restart. I use the command prompt but it goes to
scanreg and then windows detects a regisstry configuartion
error. Windows 98 looking for valid systm registry keys.
Windows found an error in your system files and was unable
to fix the problem. Try deleting some files to free up
disk space on your windows drive. If that doesn't work
then you will need to install windows to a new directory.
I cannot get the computer in dos to recognize the D drive
to install windows 98 cd in the D drive cd rom to
reinstall the program.the computer just goes back to the
same screen after reboot.
What can I do to get windows to load again and work
properly on the computer?

Posted by PCR on July 23rd, 2003


| to fix the problem. Try deleting some files to free up
| disk space on your windows drive.

Well, if it's space you need, perhaps...

Hold Ctrl as you boot to get the Startup Menu, & select Command Line
Prompt. Enter the following commands.

SMARTDRV
DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
DELTREE C:\Windows\Temp\ /y
DELTREE C:\Windows\Applog\ /y
Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows

Be very CAREFUL not to hit ENTER too soon on DELTREE. It will delete the
contents of the folder you specify.


SMARTDRV speeds disk processing in DOS. Without it, go take a nap.
Tempor~1 is Temporary Internet Files.
History is a list of recently visit sites.

Temp normally is what it says. Normally, the files may be
deleted, if you are not in the middle of an update. If so, you'd have
the message, "Reboot to complete processing.", likely.

APPLOG is used by Defrag to optimize the location of files on your
partition. (Some files in it seem extraordinarily large.) It will be
recreated and the contents will accumulate, as the second time any app
is run it generates an .LGC in that folder. (Optlog.txt, in that folder,
will be recreated, when next you Defrag. Save the old one only to retain
a record of every app that has run, at least twice, to the date of your
last Defrag.)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Big Dog" <partnole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:063601c350c9$c6420590$a501280a@phx.gbl...
| I deleted the trickler file and then my windows 98 failed
| to restart. I use the command prompt but it goes to
| scanreg and then windows detects a regisstry configuartion
| error. Windows 98 looking for valid systm registry keys.
| Windows found an error in your system files and was unable
| to fix the problem. Try deleting some files to free up
| disk space on your windows drive. If that doesn't work
| then you will need to install windows to a new directory.
| I cannot get the computer in dos to recognize the D drive
| to install windows 98 cd in the D drive cd rom to
| reinstall the program.the computer just goes back to the
| same screen after reboot.
| What can I do to get windows to load again and work
| properly on the computer?


Posted by BIG DOG on July 26th, 2003



the D drive. I have the following error message:
C:\Windows\System.DAT
Windows found an error in your system files and was unable
to fix the problem. Registry file was not found.
What can I do next to get the computer to bot or reinstall
Win98?

Posted by cquirke on July 27th, 2003


On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:25:05 -0700, "BIG DOG" <partnole@hotmail.com>

If that's from Scandisk, you had a lucky escape; Scandisk's idea of a
"fix" would have really ruined an already bad day.

Pull a good registry from C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP\RB*.CAB

Here's what I do if I were you...

F8 boot menu; choose Command Prompt Only

....then these commands...

LH SmartDrv /x
C:
CD \Windows
Attrib -r -h -s SYSTEM.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s USER.DAT
Ren SYSTEM.DAT SYSTEM.DA!
Ren USER.DAT USER.DA!

; That makes template copies of existing registry
; Now to get backup copies as templates...

Extract SYSBCKUP\RBBAD.CAB SYSTEM.DAT
Extract SYSBCKUP\RBBAD.CAB USER.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s SYSTEM.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s USER.DAT
Ren SYSTEM.DAT SYSTEM.BAD
Ren USER.DAT USER.BAD

Extract SYSBCKUP\RB001.CAB SYSTEM.DAT
Extract SYSBCKUP\RB001.CAB USER.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s SYSTEM.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s USER.DAT
Ren SYSTEM.DAT SYSTEM.001
Ren USER.DAT USER.001

Extract SYSBCKUP\RB002.CAB SYSTEM.DAT
Extract SYSBCKUP\RB002.CAB USER.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s SYSTEM.DAT
Attrib -r -h -s USER.DAT
Ren SYSTEM.DAT SYSTEM.002
Ren USER.DAT USER.002

; ...etc. for however many RB00?.CAB there are.

You now have a set of registry templates, but no active registry.

If I were me, I'd use my !REGSWAP.BAT to take it from there, i.e. copy
each template into action for testing etc. while keeping a running log
of all the swaps done (which I then Edit and ;comment to taste)

But being you, I'd have to do that manually. Each time you want to
test a registry template, do this from DOS mode:

C:
CD \Windows
Attrib -r -s -h SYSTEM.DAT
Attrib -r -s -h USER.DAT
DEL SYSTEM.DAT
DEL USER.DAT
Copy SYSTEM.001 SYSTEM.DAT
Copy USER.001 USER.DAT

Salient points about the above...
- don't do the DEL unless you *know* you have backed up the file!
- always copy from template to active
- never copy over templates
- if registry changed and you want changes, copy as new template

You can use ScanReg /Fix to massage (repair) whatever is the active
registry at the time. The older formal method is...

REGEDIT /E C:\ALLREG.TXT
REGEDIT /C C:\ALLREG.TXT

....where /C will destroy the existing registry by creating a new one
from the exported ALLREG.TXT file, so make backups first and watch for
errors reported by either the /E or (less likely) the /C steps
involved. This method repairs structural damage, but
structurally-damaged content is likely to be left out of the /E(xport)
and if so will be absent from the registry /C(reated).

With a bit of luck, success here will avoid the need to do that.
Either way, I'd do hardware diagnostics, as flaky hardware (RAM,
overclocking, bad fans etc.) often breaks the registry and will cause
your "just re-install" to be stillborn (corruption of new code files
as they are created) or rot away thereafter (as the last one did).


Posted by Big Dog on July 29th, 2003



SCANREG /RESTORE is:
No Backups were found to restore.
System Restore operation failed.



Posted by PCR on July 29th, 2003


If you have an invalid Registry & there is no backup, I'm afraid all you
can do is a reinstall of Windows.

If these errors are caused by hardware, then a reinstall of Windows is
not the cure. Also, proper maintenance & preventive steps might have
averted this situation. Finally, a full system backup would have been
useful.
news:OH5sWk#KDHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
List of backup apps. Nonetheless...

Setup.exe, run from your Installation CD or from your .cabs folder,
accomplishes either an Over-Install or a Fresh Install. The procedural
difference is you first wipe the prior Windows installation for a Fresh
Install, or install it to a different folder. An over-install supposedly
leaves all else intact, but there are some who say it will over-write
..vxds (drivers) and otherwise musses settings. Therefore, it becomes a
lot of work to do it, as you must un/re-install large applications,
before/after the over-install. Also, you must go to Windows Update
afterwards, to see whether it detects it needs to reinstall it's
criticals. There is Version Conflict Manager to do. Finally, they say,
it is wise to back up critical data even before an over-install.

Others swear an over-install is effortless (under an hour) and
effective. Just select to install to the existing directory, when it
makes the offer to go elsewhere. If it fails, then you may need to do a
tweak, such as renaming Win.com before starting. (Personally, I have
never Fresh or Over-Installed Windows. I did actually click Setup.exe
once, and was presented with an alluring screenful-- but I cancelled.)
Well, anyway, take a look at the URLs below, which really apply to both.

You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or OEM, such as
Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory condition by
using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may contain
proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise...

http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/index.html Badour has one
http://www.aumha.org/ Aumha may have it too
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to Reinstall Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902
How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder

"Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", either on CD or
hard drive. This may instruct how to run it from a folder on the hard
drive.

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.)

Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full list of
capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says Harper. Each
requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see you had a prior
version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert a floppy or
earlier CD.

FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing
OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version.

UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of
existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version if
one is not installed.

WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is present on the hard
drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all.

OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted hard drive. May
be customized to include or omit components that would be found/not
found on a retail CD.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Big Dog" <partnole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:039b01c3560e$27c5c830$a301280a@phx.gbl...
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >System.dat is the major part of your Registry. The
| smaller part is
| >User.dat.
| >
| >At DOS, try
| >
| >(1) C:
| >(2) CD\
| >(3) DIR /s /a System.dat
| >
| >Did it show up? If it is not located in "C:\Windows", it
| may be an older
| >version. If too old, it likely is unusable.
| >
| >(4) CD Windows\Sysbckup
| >(5) Dir RB*.cab
| >
| >Did you get a listing? Those are your Registry backups.
| >
| >C:\>cd windows\sysbckup
| >C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP>dir rb*.cab /s
| >Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
| >
| >RBBAD CAB 1,472,577 06-05-03 4:32p rbbad.cab
| >RB001 CAB 1,526,229 07-23-03 12:11p rb001.cab
| >RB003 CAB 1,524,338 07-25-03 4:31p rb003.cab
| >RB002 CAB 1,526,598 07-24-03 12:38p rb002.cab
| >RB000 CAB 1,515,185 07-22-03 2:20p rb000.cab
| >RB005 CAB 1,513,889 07-21-03 12:56a rb005.cab
| > 6 file(s) 9,078,816 bytes
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
| >pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >"Big Dog" <partnole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| >news:038401c3531f$0d92c540$a601280a@phx.gbl...
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| to fix the problem. Try deleting some files to free
| up
| >| >| disk space on your windows drive.
| >| >
| >| >Well, if it's space you need, perhaps...
| >| >
| >| >Hold Ctrl as you boot to get the Startup Menu, & select
| >| Command Line
| >| >Prompt. Enter the following commands.
| >| >
| >| >SMARTDRV
| >| >DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y
| >| >DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y
| >| >DELTREE C:\Windows\Temp\ /y
| >| >DELTREE C:\Windows\Applog\ /y
| >| >Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows
| >| >
| >| >Be very CAREFUL not to hit ENTER too soon on DELTREE.
| It
| >| will delete the
| >| >contents of the folder you specify.
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >SMARTDRV speeds disk processing in DOS. Without it, go
| >| take a nap.
| >| >Tempor~1 is Temporary Internet Files.
| >| >History is a list of recently visit sites.
| >| >
| >| >Temp normally is what it says. Normally, the
| >| files may be
| >| >deleted, if you are not in the middle of an update. If
| >| so, you'd have
| >| >the message, "Reboot to complete processing.", likely.
| >| >
| >| >APPLOG is used by Defrag to optimize the location of
| >| files on your
| >| >partition. (Some files in it seem extraordinarily
| large.)
| >| It will be
| >| >recreated and the contents will accumulate, as the
| second
| >| time any app
| >| >is run it generates an .LGC in that folder.
| (Optlog.txt,
| >| in that folder,
| >| >will be recreated, when next you Defrag. Save the old
| one
| >| only to retain
| >| >a record of every app that has run, at least twice, to
| >| the date of your
| >| >last Defrag.)
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >PCR
| >| >pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >| >"Big Dog" <partnole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| >| >news:063601c350c9$c6420590$a501280a@phx.gbl...
| >| >| I deleted the trickler file and then my windows 98
| >| failed
| >| >| to restart. I use the command prompt but it goes to
| >| >| scanreg and then windows detects a regisstry
| >| configuartion
| >| >| error. Windows 98 looking for valid systm registry
| keys.
| >| >| Windows found an error in your system files and was
| >| unable
| >| >| to fix the problem. Try deleting some files to free
| up
| >| >| disk space on your windows drive. If that doesn't
| work
| >| >| then you will need to install windows to a new
| >| directory.
| >| >| I cannot get the computer in dos to recognize the D
| >| drive
| >| >| to install windows 98 cd in the D drive cd rom to
| >| >| reinstall the program.the computer just goes back to
| the
| >| >| same screen after reboot.
| >| >| What can I do to get windows to load again and work
| >| >| properly on the computer?
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >Thank you;
| >| However I still am not able to have the computer
| recognize
| >| the D drive. I have the following error message:
| >| C:\Windows\System.DAT
| >| Windows found an error in your system files and was
| unable
| >| to fix the problem. Registry file was not found.
| >| What can I do next to get the computer to bot or
| reinstall
| >| Win98?
| >
| >
| >.
| >Thank you for the help;
| The reply I receive from the computer when I run the
| SCANREG /RESTORE is:
| No Backups were found to restore.
| System Restore operation failed.
|
|



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