- Removing previous operating system?
- Posted by Mia on February 19th, 2004
I upgraded from win95 to win98 and during instalation I
was prompted to save win95 so I could revert back to it if
I wasn't happy with win98. Everything with win98 is fine
and I'm having no problems so how do I go about removing
win95 from my system? I have a win95 folder on my C drive
that contains the win95 setup.exe and all the cab files
etc...I've never had a win95 CD. Is it a case of just
deleting that folder or is there more to it than that?
Also have something else I'd like help with if possible.
When I boot up my machine my win98 logo comes up then my
old C:\>rem - By Windows 95 Network - C:\WINDOWS\net start
still appears then my win98 logo again then it goes right
into windows. Can that "By Windows 95 Network etc" be
removed at all? TVMIA
- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 19th, 2004
"Mia" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12ffb01c3f6a0$8ebe43e0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, there should be an obvious entry that will do what you want. If there isn't, post back, I'll look into it.
That folder was probably put there by original installer so that you wouldn't have to go looking for the disk(s) when additional files were required. Also makes initial installation easier. Unless you already have a Win95 installation CD in good condition ("Restore" CD doesn't count), I'd burn that folder to a CD, in case you ever need to reinstall the Win98 Upgrade--it's your proof of ownership of Win95 and will be required viewing by Win98 Upgrade Setup if you do a reformat/reinstall. If you don't have a CD burner, I'd repartition and move that folder to a hidden partition at the end of the drive for safe keeping. Unless you're certain you have a good copy (and if your Win95 Setup files are on floppies, I would not count on them), I would *not* get rid of that folder. Post back for suggestions if you think repartitioning a hidden storage option is the way to go and want advice on how to go about that.
Yes. Open Autoexec.bat in NotePad, and if that's all that's in there, rename Autoexec.bat to Autoexec.95 (If you aren't seeing extensions like BAT, you need to change Folder Options. Ask if you need help.)
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
- Posted by Mia on February 19th, 2004
Thanks for responding Gary, firstly the Autoexec.bat
matter has been sorted and is fine now, thanks. In
add/remove programs the only 2 new entries since the
upgrade are "delete Windows 98 uninstall information"
and "uninstall Windows 98". As for the Win95 folder on
the C drive that was indeed put there by the original
installer and I wasn't given the original Win95CD, I also
don't have a CD burner. My main reasons for removing
win95 was mainly the amount of space it takes up on the
drive. My brother who has a CD burner had a crazy idea
about uploading the folder onto a ftp site where he can
download it and burn it on a CD. Would that work?
post back, I'll look into it.
when additional files were required. Also makes initial
installation easier. Unless you already have a Win95
installation CD in good condition ("Restore" CD doesn't
count), I'd burn that folder to a CD, in case you ever
need to reinstall the Win98 Upgrade--it's your proof of
ownership of Win95 and will be required viewing by Win98
Upgrade Setup if you do a reformat/reinstall. If you don't
have a CD burner, I'd repartition and move that folder to
a hidden partition at the end of the drive for safe
keeping. Unless you're certain you have a good copy (and
if your Win95 Setup files are on floppies, I would not
count on them), I would *not* get rid of that folder. Post
back for suggestions if you think repartitioning a hidden
storage option is the way to go and want advice on how to
go about that.
you aren't seeing extensions like BAT, you need to change
Folder Options. Ask if you need help.)
- Posted by Richard G. Harper on February 19th, 2004
I suspect Gary's sleeping, so I'll tag up and take this:
1. "Delete Windows 98 uninstall information" is the one you want. This
will remove the saved Windows 95 information on your hard drive and you will
no longer be able to uninstall Windows 98.
2. Aside from the possible copyright issues involved (unless this is a
private FTP site, anyone else could see and download the files and leave YOU
on the hook as a software pirate) you certainly could do this.
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- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 19th, 2004
What he said. Just make real certain you have a functioning Win95 CD *before* you delete the folder. I'd make two copies. Keep one with the Win98 Upgrade CD--it is an essential part of your Win98 Setup.
Thanks, Richard.
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
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- Posted by Mia on February 19th, 2004
ummm too late LOL. After Richards post (and before your
lastest) I deleted Win98 uninstall infomation and now
can't get into windows at all. I get a message
saying "error loading explorer.exe you must reinstall
windows" and "a required .dll file
C:\windows\system\msvcrt.dll was not found" Any
suggestions?
make two copies. Keep one with the Win98 Upgrade CD--it is
an essential part of your Win98 Setup.
- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 19th, 2004
Ummm... Not sure.
You're *certain* you only deleted Uninstall Information?
Best guess:
Error Message: Error Loading Explorer.exe You Must Reinstall Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=299296
If that doesn't seem to do it, or you need assistance with the instructions, post back. (Post back, anyway. I want to hear all about it, <s>.)
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
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- Posted by Mia on February 20th, 2004
Looks like my honeymoon with win98 could be well and
truely over lol....anyway "uninstall win98 information"
was the only thing I deleted. I found the KB article
myself earlier and printed it out and I'm not to sure
about the first few steps on those instructions. The
windows98 startup disk, is that the CD or a boot disk?
Also it refers to at microsoft win98 startup menu, type 1
and then press enter, What windows98 startup menu? As it
is now I start up my machine the win98 logo comes up the
my external CD ROM comes to life (the light comes on and
it beeps) then after that I get the error message.
want to hear all about it, <s>.)
- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 20th, 2004
"Mia" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12cde01c3f754$2620c060$a301280a@phx.gbl...
I'm soooory, :-(
That's the Boot Disk, aka "Windows Startup Disk", aka Emergency Boot Disk (EBD).
The Startup Menu that's being referred to here is the one that appears when you boot to the EBD. You want the option that includes "CDROM Support".
There is another Startup Menu that you can get by holding down the Ctrl key at startup (have to catch it at just the right time, but to avoid a "stuck key" error, sometimes you have to just repeatedly tap the Ctrl key, and sometimes F8 works better.) That Startup Menu has Safe Mode, Step-by-Step, Logged Startup, etc. Good one to practive with, but not the one you need now.
I'll be waiting...
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
- Posted by Mia on February 20th, 2004
The saga continues...Tales from the boot disk...
CD-ROM device driver for IDE
Driver version :V340
Device name :Banana
No drives found, Aborting installation
Device driver not found :Banana
No valid CD-ROM device drivers selected
A:\>
that includes "CDROM Support".
right time, but to avoid a "stuck key" error, sometimes
you have to just repeatedly tap the Ctrl key, and
sometimes F8 works better.) That Startup Menu has Safe
Mode, Step-by-Step, Logged Startup, etc. Good one to
practive with, but not the one you need now.
- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 20th, 2004
You are apparently using a specialized Boot Disk, created for a certain machine that's not yours, instead of a generic one. Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and get a generic disk. Win98SE OEM disk should do you just fine.
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
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- Posted by Mia on February 20th, 2004
The boot disk didn't work I read the "readme" file on the
boot disk and the CD-ROM drivers that are included don't
seem to support pc card cd-roms. Would it be best if I
started again from scratch using a full version win98se CD
I have? If so how do I go about that? Also if I have to
start all over how would I get my cd-rom to work? I do
have the drivers for those on a disk.
generic one. Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
and get a generic disk. Win98SE OEM disk should do you
just fine.
- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 20th, 2004
Goodness! You're just full of surprises, <smile>.
Please post back with a list of the files that are on your CD drivers disk. Or email then to me at grystnews@mvps.org. I'll give you a step-by-step set of instructions to try. Or you can check out this page, just for the instruction for adding CD drivers to your boot disk. Ignore the rest.
http://www.netpathway.com/~kramer/reinstall.html
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
"Mia" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1398901c3f772$cfabefb0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
- Posted by Mia on February 20th, 2004
Thanks Gary you're a star! lol....I can get into windows again and
everything is working fine. Thank-you so much for all your expertise and
time on this matter, it was really appreciated.
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
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Goodness! You're just full of surprises, <smile>.
Please post back with a list of the files that are on your CD drivers disk.
Or email then to me at grystnews@mvps.org. I'll give you a step-by-step set
of instructions to try. Or you can check out this page, just for the
instruction for adding CD drivers to your boot disk. Ignore the rest.
http://www.netpathway.com/~kramer/reinstall.html
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
"Mia" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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- Posted by Gary S. Terhune on February 21st, 2004
As I said in an email just now, you're quite welcome, Mia.
For those who wonder, via email, we determined that extracting from the CD while on the ThinkPad was more problem than it was worth, and instead, we used another machine to extcart the MSVCRT.DLL file to a floppy to transfer it that way.
Mia, you need to check in with IBM's support pages on your machine. There are issues you should know about when that machine gets upgraded to Win98. Could be important later.
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Windows 9x
Mia wrote: