Hi,
I am running win98 se and Internet Explorer version 5.5
Should I upgrade to a later version of IE, and if so, is it an easy process
Thanks
Trevor

Yes IE6 sp1 is better than 5.5, is very easy, and at the same time you will be
informed of all the other bug fixes you may have missed at
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com or http://www.windowsupdate.com

or by clicking

start
windows update

or

start
settings
windows update

I especially like the IE6 SP1 features for outlook express where ctrl-H allows
you to see only threads in which you are active in newsgroups
--
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG http://www.grisoft.com
Panda online scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
links provided as a courtesy, no endorsement of the products is implied,

"trk" <ktrevor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GJd0c.81086$Wa.50172@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| Hi,
| I am running win98 se and Internet Explorer version 5.5
| Should I upgrade to a later version of IE, and if so, is it an easy process
| Thanks
| Trevor
|
|

AlmostBob wrote:
fwiw,
imho I would say Yes for all else, but for some W98x users I may say No.
...definitely yes for the advantages of the latest Outlook Express, and yes
for the security updates continuing with IE 6, etc..

...but for some W98x IE6 users can be definitely a no with the known large
quantity file delete hang anomaly, etc... regular users may not notice
this though, but for others will. This surprisingly only has been sparsely
spoken about here and there in this group about a few dozen times ever
since IE 6 came out, but that may be because many now are using W2K or
especially WXP with IE6 since it's the natural progression.., but others
that still use W98 and have installed IE6 and if they ever get into the
situation of deleting multiple large quantities of files and/or multiple
quantities of large size files and it hangs/freezes 'abnormally - beyond
each setups specification' ..they may not even know that it's related to an
IE6 occurrence; and for regular users this may not come up very often
anyway and so the anomaly just stays in the background and so not realized.

It's not hardware related either, iow, if one has a P3 w/128mb ram or a
P4 w/1GB of ram (although that does effect the outcome to one degree or
another) ...but it's still specifically an IE6 issue.

Rick

Wow, Almost Bob,

I've had IE 6 SP1 since it became available but didn't know about the
Ctrl H feature. It's really neat. Thanks!

Win98SE IE6 SP1, fully updated. There was NO PROBLEM performing a
massive copy (1/2 GB, 333 folders, 5000 files) in a clean boot situation
(few startup apps). The copy took place in moments, where it was a
horror before. Afterwards, Explorer responded to button clicks
instantly. WinTop settled to negligible Explorer activity; System
Monitor, to processor usage in the teens.

These apps were still running: Explorer, Systray, Kernel32.dll,
Msgsrv32, Mprexe, Mmtask.tsk, Ptsnoop, Wmiexe, Resource Meter, System
Monitor, & WinTop.

Not running were:

(a) Avsynmgr (McAfeeVirusScanService)
(b) Vsstat (McAfee VirusScan System Tray)
(c) Avconsol (McAfee VirusScan Console)
(d) Vshwin32 (McAfee VirusScan System Scan)
(e) Alogserv (More McAfee)
(f) Webscanx (More McAfee)
(g) CPQEasyAcc (Compaq Easy Access Button Support)
(h) EAClean (Also Compaq Easy Access Button Support)
(i) Printray (Lexmark app)
(j) CIJ3P2PServer (Printer)
(k) EM_EXEC (Mouse Control Center)
(l) Spool32 ()
(m) DrWatson
(n) WinZip Quick Pick
(o) PersFw (Kerio Personal Firewall)

Oddly, deleting the copy of that 1/2 GB worked, but... did give an error
message of low resources. Resource Meter showed there were plenty.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
news:uE3kTtu$DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| AlmostBob wrote:
| > Yes IE6 sp1 is better than 5.5
|
| fwiw,
| imho I would say Yes for all else, but for some W98x users I may say
No.
| ..definitely yes for the advantages of the latest Outlook Express, and
yes
| for the security updates continuing with IE 6, etc..
|
| ..but for some W98x IE6 users can be definitely a no with the known
large
| quantity file delete hang anomaly, etc... regular users may not
notice
| this though, but for others will. This surprisingly only has been
sparsely
| spoken about here and there in this group about a few dozen times ever
| since IE 6 came out, but that may be because many now are using W2K or
| especially WXP with IE6 since it's the natural progression.., but
others
| that still use W98 and have installed IE6 and if they ever get into
the
| situation of deleting multiple large quantities of files and/or
multiple
| quantities of large size files and it hangs/freezes 'abnormally -
beyond
| each setups specification' ..they may not even know that it's related
to an
| IE6 occurrence; and for regular users this may not come up very often
| anyway and so the anomaly just stays in the background and so not
realized.
|
| It's not hardware related either, iow, if one has a P3 w/128mb ram or
a
| P4 w/1GB of ram (although that does effect the outcome to one degree
or
| another) ...but it's still specifically an IE6 issue.
|
| Rick
|
|
| >, is very easy, and at the same time you
| > will be informed of all the other bug fixes you may have missed at
| > http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com or
http://www.windowsupdate.com
| >
| > or by clicking
| >
| > start
| > windows update
| >
| > or
| >
| > start
| > settings
| > windows update
| >
| > I especially like the IE6 SP1 features for outlook express where
ctrl-H
| > allows you to see only threads in which you are active in newsgroups
| > --
| > Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
| > spybot http://security.kolla.de
| > AVG http://www.grisoft.com
| > Panda online scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
| > Catalog of removal tools
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
| > links provided as a courtesy, no endorsement of the products is
implied,
| >
| > "trk" <ktrevor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:GJd0c.81086$Wa.50172@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| >| Hi,
| >| I am running win98 se and Internet Explorer version 5.5
| >| Should I upgrade to a later version of IE, and if so, is it an easy
| >| process Thanks
| >| Trevor
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

PCR wrote:
[....]

That's not really massive, and also it's not a question of a one time
delete of those files, and I can do that too without any consequence at
all. Since you had once the problem yourself and also replied to so many
of the original complaint posts about this anomaly before I would think
that you know of all the details, which are that most times just deleting a
one time of your above listing is usually not a problem - 'although not
normally often done' ..but it's when you do that multiple times, and/or
restoring them back from the RB, and/or trying to rename files after that's
been done, and/or copying multiples of same across partitions or USB, etc,
...as I said all of these things are not usually done by the 'average'
person very often, but yes any of these can precipitate the problem and
once it sets only a reboot can clear its logy grasp. It's been proven by
the very same people and myself you have quoted in your past replies dozens
of times. If I try persistently I can reproduce the problem on any W9x IE6
system within my reach so far, and it happens occasionally if I don't even
try - and as mentioned it is not a hardware or lack of hardware
specifications that is the cause although that does +/- affect the outcome;
it also does not matter what evolution of W98x & IE5/5.5/6 was previously
installed because it can do it on a fresh install of W/98 IE6SP1, or it can
do it on a 98x that's years old having been IE updated over time as each
new version came out - all of which is proven and reproducible by others,
then as well myself or I wouldn't have posted.

When the anomaly happens, unfortunately in this case Regmon or Filemon or
your wintop are not useful and outwardly inoperable because all functions
are frozen to be able to observe what's happening - or even being able to
go back in either log because nothing can be logged in those during
the anomaly. Instituting the hack of swapping IE5.5 Browselc.dll &
Browseui.dll does work to abate the problem but admittedly is a hack,
unofficial, and mostlikey an improper way of doing it; although it does
work and I have used it successfully myself, but I do not recommend it for
everyone.

Keeping all this in perspective though - this is only W98x IE6+, and the
type of activity that requires to set it off is not done by most everyday
users, and if it does occasionally happen to them they will never know it's
IE6 related; also W98x users are getting less and less each day... and so
I doubt this will ever get fixed unless someone physically hands the
specific group of MS programmers in charge the actual problem in action,
real-time, and then only if they are interested and it's in the 98x budget,
otherwise it won't get fixed ..not a big deal in perspective I guess.

Rick

Well, I never tested it quite as fully as you describe you & others
have. Doing it just once in a clean boot situation, what was a FOUR HOUR
experience became a few moments. The hours of it seemed to be spent
waiting for a mouse click to be recognized. Once recognized, the action
got done quickly, it seemed. System Monitor & WinTop did continue to
run/update all the while. That was the Copy of 1/2 GB, 5000 files, 300
folders.

However, I did say, DELETING it afterwards, w/o a reboot first, DID put
up an odd error message. Yet, the Delete was quickly done. (I did reboot
afterwards.)

OK, really, you are the master of this topic, Chauvin. Perhaps I will do
a tad more testing with Delete's, since I plan soon to restore a full
system backup anyway.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
news:%23O5Yhj5$DHA.2804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > Win98SE IE6 SP1, fully updated. There was NO PROBLEM performing a
| > massive copy (1/2 GB, 333 folders, 5000 files) in a clean boot
situation
|
| [....]
|
| That's not really massive, and also it's not a question of a one time
| delete of those files, and I can do that too without any consequence
at
| all. Since you had once the problem yourself and also replied to so
many
| of the original complaint posts about this anomaly before I would
think
| that you know of all the details, which are that most times just
deleting a
| one time of your above listing is usually not a problem - 'although
not
| normally often done' ..but it's when you do that multiple times,
and/or
| restoring them back from the RB, and/or trying to rename files after
that's
| been done, and/or copying multiples of same across partitions or USB,
etc,
| ..as I said all of these things are not usually done by the 'average'
| person very often, but yes any of these can precipitate the problem
and
| once it sets only a reboot can clear its logy grasp. It's been proven
by
| the very same people and myself you have quoted in your past replies
dozens
| of times. If I try persistently I can reproduce the problem on any
W9x IE6
| system within my reach so far, and it happens occasionally if I don't
even
| try - and as mentioned it is not a hardware or lack of hardware
| specifications that is the cause although that does +/- affect the
outcome;
| it also does not matter what evolution of W98x & IE5/5.5/6 was
previously
| installed because it can do it on a fresh install of W/98 IE6SP1, or
it can
| do it on a 98x that's years old having been IE updated over time as
each
| new version came out - all of which is proven and reproducible by
others,
| then as well myself or I wouldn't have posted.
|
| When the anomaly happens, unfortunately in this case Regmon or Filemon
or
| your wintop are not useful and outwardly inoperable because all
functions
| are frozen to be able to observe what's happening - or even being able
to
| go back in either log because nothing can be logged in those during
| the anomaly. Instituting the hack of swapping IE5.5 Browselc.dll &
| Browseui.dll does work to abate the problem but admittedly is a hack,
| unofficial, and mostlikey an improper way of doing it; although it
does
| work and I have used it successfully myself, but I do not recommend it
for
| everyone.
|
| Keeping all this in perspective though - this is only W98x IE6+, and
the
| type of activity that requires to set it off is not done by most
everyday
| users, and if it does occasionally happen to them they will never know
it's
| IE6 related; also W98x users are getting less and less each day...
and so
| I doubt this will ever get fixed unless someone physically hands the
| specific group of MS programmers in charge the actual problem in
action,
| real-time, and then only if they are interested and it's in the 98x
budget,
| otherwise it won't get fixed ..not a big deal in perspective I guess.
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
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|

PCR wrote:
I think you should do an A-B test with IE 5.5 and IE 6.1, and get back to us on
it with a complete report.

That actually was once on my to-do list, last I saw it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uwtFYS%23$DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > Well, I never tested it quite as fully as you describe you & others
| > have.
....snip
|
| I think you should do an A-B test with IE 5.5 and IE 6.1, and get back
to us on
| it with a complete report.
....snip

It is as you say, Chauvin, that delays developed quite soon. I did it
again under a clean boot. The first copy of .5 GB went in under a
minute. I copied three/four smaller folders that were instantaneous.
After deleting my first folder, there was a brief delay before Explorer
would refresh it's display. The larger the folder, the greater the
delay. Deleting/copying some more, the delay grew to 20 seconds. Still,
the actions were instantaneous. It was just afterwards it took up to 20
seconds before Explorer would recognize the next button click. WinTop &
System Monitor were running/updating all the time. They showed heavy
Explorer & processor usage, for the length of those 20 seconds. Delays
were only in Explorer related activity, which includes the START button.
Naturally, all is fine after a fresh boot.

I didn't get that "out of resources" error this time. Also, this still
is quite good compared to previous 4-hour experiences doing it in a
dirty boot. Quite good, indeed!

(Colorado, step right up, & get yourself a copy of IE6 SP1, fully
updated!)

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
news:%23O5Yhj5$DHA.2804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > Win98SE IE6 SP1, fully updated. There was NO PROBLEM performing a
| > massive copy (1/2 GB, 333 folders, 5000 files) in a clean boot
situation
|
| [....]
|
| That's not really massive, and also it's not a question of a one time
| delete of those files, and I can do that too without any consequence
at
| all. Since you had once the problem yourself and also replied to so
many
| of the original complaint posts about this anomaly before I would
think
| that you know of all the details, which are that most times just
deleting a
| one time of your above listing is usually not a problem - 'although
not
| normally often done' ..but it's when you do that multiple times,
and/or
| restoring them back from the RB, and/or trying to rename files after
that's
| been done, and/or copying multiples of same across partitions or USB,
etc,
| ..as I said all of these things are not usually done by the 'average'
| person very often, but yes any of these can precipitate the problem
and
| once it sets only a reboot can clear its logy grasp. It's been proven
by
| the very same people and myself you have quoted in your past replies
dozens
| of times. If I try persistently I can reproduce the problem on any
W9x IE6
| system within my reach so far, and it happens occasionally if I don't
even
| try - and as mentioned it is not a hardware or lack of hardware
| specifications that is the cause although that does +/- affect the
outcome;
| it also does not matter what evolution of W98x & IE5/5.5/6 was
previously
| installed because it can do it on a fresh install of W/98 IE6SP1, or
it can
| do it on a 98x that's years old having been IE updated over time as
each
| new version came out - all of which is proven and reproducible by
others,
| then as well myself or I wouldn't have posted.
|
| When the anomaly happens, unfortunately in this case Regmon or Filemon
or
| your wintop are not useful and outwardly inoperable because all
functions
| are frozen to be able to observe what's happening - or even being able
to
| go back in either log because nothing can be logged in those during
| the anomaly. Instituting the hack of swapping IE5.5 Browselc.dll &
| Browseui.dll does work to abate the problem but admittedly is a hack,
| unofficial, and mostlikey an improper way of doing it; although it
does
| work and I have used it successfully myself, but I do not recommend it
for
| everyone.
|
| Keeping all this in perspective though - this is only W98x IE6+, and
the
| type of activity that requires to set it off is not done by most
everyday
| users, and if it does occasionally happen to them they will never know
it's
| IE6 related; also W98x users are getting less and less each day...
and so
| I doubt this will ever get fixed unless someone physically hands the
| specific group of MS programmers in charge the actual problem in
action,
| real-time, and then only if they are interested and it's in the 98x
budget,
| otherwise it won't get fixed ..not a big deal in perspective I guess.
|
| Rick
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

PCR wrote:
Why? IE 5.5 SP2 is doing great for me!

Well, I have forgotten the reasons, but just do it!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e45wTWCAEHA.3056@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
....snip
| >
| > (Colorado, step right up, & get yourself a copy of IE6 SP1, fully
| > updated!)
|
| Why? IE 5.5 SP2 is doing great for me!
|
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
....snip

Well there's nothing more we can do about it really, I guess.

There were a few more effects of it I did not even mention more
delinquent that what you or I have described.

Now when I use W98SE - I am staying with IE5.5SP2 my special version.

When I had thoroughly tested the IE6 anomaly Filemon & Regmon were no help
and wouldn't log during the freeze or I would have used that to isolate the
issues. I'm not going to go back and test it anymore though since I've
brought it forward as much as I care too at the moment, and my plate is
full and I have bigger fish to fry.

...hmmm, saying that made me hungry - time for lunch.. <g>

Rick


PCR wrote:

Effects "more delinquent"? Anyway, I seldom do any huge copy/delete,
except to test this stupid anomaly. When I want to do a backup, it is
usually through BING. However, I occasionally refresh particular items
in my clone, by copying folders from C:\ to D:\, the largest of which
was the OE Store. But I have more even that permanently to H:\. Slowly,
all my big, individual folders are finding their way onto other
partitions. And none of those ever caused the same incredible 4-hour
experience that Program Files does in a dirty boot.

So, this really is no big priority for me, either. But what do you mean
by more delinquent effects? I think Colorado may want to know.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
news:e6v%23OqIAEHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Well there's nothing more we can do about it really, I guess.
|
| There were a few more effects of it I did not even mention more
| delinquent that what you or I have described.
|
| Now when I use W98SE - I am staying with IE5.5SP2 my special version.
|
| When I had thoroughly tested the IE6 anomaly Filemon & Regmon were no
help
| and wouldn't log during the freeze or I would have used that to
isolate the
| issues. I'm not going to go back and test it anymore though since
I've
| brought it forward as much as I care too at the moment, and my plate
is
| full and I have bigger fish to fry.
|
| ..hmmm, saying that made me hungry - time for lunch.. <g>
|
| Rick
|
|
| PCR wrote:
| > It is as you say, Chauvin, that delays developed quite soon. I did
it
| > again under a clean boot. The first copy of .5 GB went in under a
| > minute. I copied three/four smaller folders that were instantaneous.
| > After deleting my first folder, there was a brief delay before
Explorer
| > would refresh it's display. The larger the folder, the greater the
| > delay. Deleting/copying some more, the delay grew to 20 seconds.
Still,
| > the actions were instantaneous. It was just afterwards it took up to
20
| > seconds before Explorer would recognize the next button click.
WinTop &
| > System Monitor were running/updating all the time. They showed heavy
| > Explorer & processor usage, for the length of those 20 seconds.
Delays
| > were only in Explorer related activity, which includes the START
button.
| > Naturally, all is fine after a fresh boot.
| >
| > I didn't get that "out of resources" error this time. Also, this
still
| > is quite good compared to previous 4-hour experiences doing it in a
| > dirty boot. Quite good, indeed!
| >
| > (Colorado, step right up, & get yourself a copy of IE6 SP1, fully
| > updated!)
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
| > news:%23O5Yhj5$DHA.2804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| >| PCR wrote:
| >| > Win98SE IE6 SP1, fully updated. There was NO PROBLEM performing a
| >| > massive copy (1/2 GB, 333 folders, 5000 files) in a clean boot
| >| > situation
| >|
| >| [....]
| >|
| >| That's not really massive, and also it's not a question of a one
time
| >| delete of those files, and I can do that too without any
consequence at
| >| all. Since you had once the problem yourself and also replied to
so
| >| many of the original complaint posts about this anomaly before I
would
| >| think that you know of all the details, which are that most times
just
| >| deleting a one time of your above listing is usually not a
problem -
| >| 'although not normally often done' ..but it's when you do that
multiple
| >| times, and/or restoring them back from the RB, and/or trying to
rename
| >| files after that's been done, and/or copying multiples of same
across
| >| partitions or USB, etc, ..as I said all of these things are not
| >| usually done by the 'average' person very often, but yes any of
these
| >| can precipitate the problem and once it sets only a reboot can
clear
| >| its logy grasp. It's been proven by the very same people and myself
you
| >| have quoted in your past replies dozens of times. If I try
| >| persistently I can reproduce the problem on any W9x IE6 system
within
| >| my reach so far, and it happens occasionally if I don't even try -
and
| >| as mentioned it is not a hardware or lack of hardware
specifications
| >| that is the cause although that does +/- affect the outcome; it
also
| >| does not matter what evolution of W98x & IE5/5.5/6 was previously
| >| installed because it can do it on a fresh install of W/98 IE6SP1,
or it
| >| can do it on a 98x that's years old having been IE updated over
time as
| >| each new version came out - all of which is proven and reproducible
by
| >| others, then as well myself or I wouldn't have posted.
| >|
| >| When the anomaly happens, unfortunately in this case Regmon or
Filemon
| >| or your wintop are not useful and outwardly inoperable because all
| >| functions are frozen to be able to observe what's happening - or
even
| >| being able to go back in either log because nothing can be logged
in
| >| those during the anomaly. Instituting the hack of swapping IE5.5
| >| Browselc.dll & Browseui.dll does work to abate the problem but
| >| admittedly is a hack, unofficial, and mostlikey an improper way of
| >| doing it; although it does work and I have used it successfully
myself,
| >| but I do not recommend it for everyone.
| >|
| >| Keeping all this in perspective though - this is only W98x IE6+,
and the
| >| type of activity that requires to set it off is not done by most
| >| everyday users, and if it does occasionally happen to them they
will
| >| never know it's IE6 related; also W98x users are getting less and
less
| >| each day... and so I doubt this will ever get fixed unless someone
| >| physically hands the specific group of MS programmers in charge the
| >| actual problem in action, real-time, and then only if they are
| >| interested and it's in the 98x budget, otherwise it won't get fixed
| >| ..not a big deal in perspective I guess.
| >|
| >| Rick
|
|
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PCR wrote:
He probably means that 2 inch permanent tilde in the middle of your desktop! ~

Wh~a~t ar~e you~ t~~~alk~~~~ing ~~'bout~?~ T~hi~s ha~s n~~othi~ng to~ do
wit~h~ T~h~a~t~~!~~~

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Bill in Co." <none@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OiuLGFLAEHA.1600@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > Effects "more delinquent"? But what do you mean
| > by more delinquent effects? I think Colorado may want to know.
|
| He probably means that 2 inch permanent tilde in the middle of your
desktop! ~
|
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
....snip

I once asked the question in the windows update newsgroup about the
difference between IE5 and IE6 as someone at work had said they were the
same security wise.

I received a response from Torgeir Bakken (MVP) as follows:

"If you install the latest cumulative update (MS04-004/KB832894) on
both IE 5.5 and IE 6, I would think that basically they would be the
same security wise.

But one major difference is that (at least that is what is stated)
KB832894 is the last update that will be made available to IE 5.5
(unless you run Windows ME).

So when the next cumulative update is released, IE 5.5 will be more
unsecure than IE 6 (unless you run Windows ME).

--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway"

In other words, you are ok with IE5 for now, but any other updates will
leave you open on security issues.

I have had IE6 with all the updates on my Win98SE machine for years without
any problems. I installed IE6 directly without going from IE5. Not sure if
that has anything to do with it.

Hope this answers the original question.

Martin

Good points, Martin. Many users dislike ME because you cannot use
shutdown to access the DOS prompt and many older programs (mainly games) that
will work with 98SE will not work with ME. Also I enjoy the ability to
access DOS and it makes me feel more in control of my operating system by
writing out and executing commands. This is a few reasons why I have been so
hesitant to upgrade to XP even though my computer can handle the (monster --
yuk, yuk) I haven't seen many posts by Gary Terhune --- Has he left us for
XP?

"Martin C" <MartinC@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4045af4e$1@baen1673807.greenlnk.net...

No, Gary still pops into this newsgroup on occassion. I am glad he does
too - as for all the other experts here. I have learnt a lot from them over
the years.

Martin


"Artwilder" <Artwilder@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eyiDX7WAEHA.1560@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

Garry still frequents this group Artwilder. He is just very busy right now and
buying the bacon has to be put ahead of volunteer efforts. He will return as
soon as his schedule allows it.

--
____________________________________
George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

http://dundats.proboards27.com/index.cgi

"Artwilder" <Artwilder@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eyiDX7WAEHA.1560@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Good points, Martin. Many users dislike ME because you cannot use
| shutdown to access the DOS prompt and many older programs (mainly games) that
| will work with 98SE will not work with ME. Also I enjoy the ability to
| access DOS and it makes me feel more in control of my operating system by
| writing out and executing commands. This is a few reasons why I have been so
| hesitant to upgrade to XP even though my computer can handle the (monster --
| yuk, yuk) I haven't seen many posts by Gary Terhune --- Has he left us for
| XP?
|
| "Martin C" <MartinC@invalid.com> wrote in message
| news:4045af4e$1@baen1673807.greenlnk.net...
| > I once asked the question in the windows update newsgroup about the
| > difference between IE5 and IE6 as someone at work had said they were the
| > same security wise.
| >
| > I received a response from Torgeir Bakken (MVP) as follows:
| >
| > "If you install the latest cumulative update (MS04-004/KB832894) on
| > both IE 5.5 and IE 6, I would think that basically they would be the
| > same security wise.
| >
| > But one major difference is that (at least that is what is stated)
| > KB832894 is the last update that will be made available to IE 5.5
| > (unless you run Windows ME).
| >
| > So when the next cumulative update is released, IE 5.5 will be more
| > unsecure than IE 6 (unless you run Windows ME).
| >
| > --
| > torgeir
| > Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway"
| >
| > In other words, you are ok with IE5 for now, but any other updates will
| > leave you open on security issues.
| >
| > I have had IE6 with all the updates on my Win98SE machine for years without
| > any problems. I installed IE6 directly without going from IE5. Not sure if
| > that has anything to do with it.
| >
| > Hope this answers the original question.
| >
| > Martin
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|