Trying to reinstall Win98SE after formatting. Need support
as to what to try typing.

Using dockg statn for dual booting. CD is in statn and
floppy in laptop. Performed the following (to where I'm
stuck at now):

Inserted boot floppy, powered up and let it go until it
came up with:
A:\>_
typed "c:" pressed enter. At C:\>_ I typed format c: and
pressed enter, typed "y" and pressed enter, let it go til
it stopped. It stopped at:
Volume label (11 characters, ENTER for none)? _ I pressed
enter and "unplugged" station as directed. I then
inserted the Win98SE CD-ROM, plugged back in, eventually*
got station to appear to fully power up which the trick to
getting the laptop to come back on was pressing the "Fn"
key. At 123 screen, I then was to have chosen
(2) "startup with CD-ROM support" and to have pressed
enter.

(*)Extranious Details: Docking station seemed to have
partially powered up by showing no backlight for it's LCD
window, but did indicate powered up as the icons for:
empty 'circle' and another with zig-zagged line
inside 'circle' appeared (but no usual backlite). Until
locking the station's key to retain the laptop, it did not
show a backlite. It then showed only one circle (empty).

Then as I mistakening pressed "1", it went to A:\>_

Sooo- I re-did the c: [enter], typed format c: [enter],
typed "Y" [enter] and let it go til it stopped. It noted:

Checking existing disk format.
Recording current bad clusters
Complete.
Verifying 1,029.62M
Format complete.
Writing out file allocation table
Complete.
Calculating free space (this may take a few minutes)...
Complete.
Volume label (11 characters, ENTER for none)? _

pressed enter, it denoted C:\>_

Told to unplug station, I instead de-powered laptop using
it's power switch (to avoid docking station oddities of
powering it back up).

Upon powering up again, it noted a lot of things, some
being-

Transfer mode: I\O
Drives: 1
Also noting a bunch of other things ending with-
Preparing to start your computer.
This may take a few minutes. Please wait...
The diagnostics tools were successfully loaded to drive D.
MSCDEX Version 2.25
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1986-1995. All rights
reserved.
Drive E: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
To get help type HELP and press ENTER.
A:\>_

From there I was told to type E: [enter], then at E:\>_ I
typed C: [enter] then at C:\>_ I typed mkdir win98 [enter]
then at C:\>_ I typed copy *.*c\win98 [enter] which got me
to E:\> which was reportedly 'wrong', sooo-

As then instructed, I hardbooted off and swapped good HD
into laptop and also installed the bad (infected) HD into
station's carriage, powered up and copied Win98 folder,
pasted it into C: then I hardbooted.

Then removed both HD's and replaced infected HD back into
laptop, replaced the CD carriage into the station and then
inserted boot floppy and restarted.

Waited and then typed C: [enter], then typed cd win98
[enter], then (I think) at C:\WIN98>_ I typed "setup" but
got "Bad command or file name".

Then as it read (I think) C:\>_ I tried typing setup\
which at least got me back to C:\WIN98> without the 'Bad
command...'

Rebooting, I tried from A:\>_ entering E: [enter] which
got me to E:
Then typing MK DIR WIN98 got me to CDR101: Not ready
reading drive E
Abort, Retry, Fail?_


Am fairly certain it will reinstall from here, but I'm
stuck at as what to do. Powering off and up again w/o
boot floppy got me 'insert disk'. Using that floppy gets
me back to A:|>_ and as I noted above...

With floppy inserted and the CD installed in the carriage, after -
Drive E: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
To get help type HELP and press ENTER.
A:\>_

you should be able to do
E:[enter]
setup[enter]

to set up Windows from the CD. However, it appears that the CD isn't working
(even though the startup procedure seems to have installed the drivers OK)
so I guess that's why you went through all those other steps.

If you can't install direct from the CD, then you might be able to use the
win98 folder on the 'good' hard drive to do the install. However, this
procedure assumes that the win98 folder on the good hard drive is a proper
Windows 98 setup folder.

Load the good hard drive into the carriage and boot to Windows. Drag the
entire folder C:\win98 to D: (that's what you did before, and it seems to
have worked OK last time, so you're just repeating that step).

Shut down, remove the good hard drive from the carriage and insert the CD
drive into the carriage _OR_ remove the portable from the docking station.
Insert the floppy and restart. At the menu select 'without CD support'. The
boot process should see the infected hard drive as C, and the diagnostics
will be installed to D. At the A:\>_ prompt type

C:[enter]
cd win98[enter]
setup[enter]

--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"uuGuru" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Jeff for the time and effort in replying. I didn't
drag the folder, I copied it and pasted it. Any
difference? If not it seemed to work as indicated. If I
try drag and drop, wouldn't I lose it from the good HD's
folder?

Almost forgot all about this. A friend made up a set of
things (drivers etc) that I installed on the bad HD
because at that time I didn't have the station to use for
a second drive (ie; for using CD and floppy at same
time).

The pkg installed ok I think, but the virus was so bad I
think it'd gotten into DOS, but whatever, it didn't allow
me to have the CD drive installed and use it to setup.

As the pkg didnt work, and maybe this's moot as I've since
succeded in formatting the bad HD, but thought I'd better
mention it just in case whatever we' installed actually
maybe did something to the BIOS's config.

Hope we're on thesame page here because before I had the
good HD in the laptop and the bad one in the station,
ref...

into station's carriage, powered up and copied Win98
folder, pasted it into C: then I hardbooted.<<

I'm maybe confused and didn't write it down right?? Now
you say I should put the bad HD in the laptop and the good
in the station?? Jessh, I hope I didn't copy the bad HD's
Win98 folder and paste it into the good HD!

Will find out right now by checking the good one out using
it's AVG scanner.

To boot Windows and do the copy, you need the good HD in whatever place is
seen as the boot drive when you boot with the laptop docked. I read from
your post that the drive in the carriage was the boot drive with the laptop
docked, but your comment here indicates that's not so, so just put the good
drive wherever the machine boots from.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"uuGuru" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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As you have formatted the infected drive, the installed package is gone. I
would be surprised if it did anything to the BIOS, and AFAICT there's no
bios-related problems.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"uuGuru" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I prefer drag and drop, because it requires less memory. It will not delete
the source folder, provided there's a little '+' in the mouse pointer when
you drop (which there is by default if the source and destination drives are
different). Note that I didn't make it clear that you need to drag the
_folder_ from C to D (I implied you dragged the contents, but in that case
you would have to copy from C:\Win98 to D:\Win98 - same result, but more
complicated). Copy and paste should be fine - if it didn't work, there would
be a clear error message. You can right click each folder after the copy and
look at Properties to confirm they have the same number of files.

Note that for some viruses formatting is not enough to get rid of them. You
should confirm that the virus was the type that cannot survive a format.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Great news! It worked, right now it's copying files. For
the forum here's what I did in detail for squeamish
novices like myself- Problem the reinstall now's asking
for the key my Seller never gave me!

Anyway here's what I did and it would have worked, except
for...

With Good HD and floppy drive in the laptop, and bad HD in
the station's forwardmost insert, dragged Win98 setup
folder into D: which is assumedly into the bad HD as
inserted in station.

Shut down the laptop. Removed good HD from laptop and
placed bad one into laptop. Placed the CD drive into the
station's forwardmost plug-in. With the boot floppy in
the laptop's 'A' drive, restarted laptop. After DOS
stopped, it read ...tools were successfully
installed... ..A:\>_

typed- C:[enter], typed cd win98[enter], typed setup
[enter]

This started Setup is now going to perform a routine check
on your system.
To continue, press enter. To quit Setup, press ESC.

Pressed enter, blie screen came up with text of systems
like media, etc listed (some 5 or 6). Then screen changed
to Microsoft ScanDisk saying ScanDisk chrecked the
following drives:
Drive C had no errors.
Drive D had no errors.
<view log> highlighted <exit> with 'x' only highlighted

Pressed go bar (biggest key on board) and saw-
...Log file generated 10:45 pm on Tuesday Feb 3, 2004
Diretory structure
...scandisk did not find any problems
File allocation table (more)
<OK> highlighted <Save log> with 'S' highlighted.
pressed go bar and was returned to the "ScanDisk checked
the following drives:" page. Typed "x" for exit.

Something came up for a few seconds. Then screen chgd to
Windows 98 setup page!Setup wizard seemed to be being
loaded as status bar showed loading of something. Screen
then chgd to Select Directory and it's choice (of two) was
defaulted to C:\WINDOWS. With only buttons
being "<Back", "Next", and "Cancel", I chose and clicked
Next.

Preparing Directory window came up saying checking for
available space.

Seemingly there was enough space, as next window
said "Setup Options", click the kind of Setup you prefer.
Choices were, "Typical" showing desktop PC icon (default
checked), "Portable" showing laptop icon, "Compact" - To
save space, none of the optional components will be
installed, and "Custom" - This option is for advanced
users...

Clicked/checked the "Portable" option, and clicked Next.

Next window was "Windows Components", options
were "Install the most common components (Recommended)"
(defaulted/checked) and "Show me the list of components so
I can choose." I left the default choice and clicked Next.

Next window was "Identification" which had three dialog
windows. Forst window "Computer name" (defaulted at
H2E8S0), I changed it to "dream", second
window "Workgroup" (defaulted to WORKGROUP), I changed it
to "forever", and last window "Computer Description"
(blank) and I entered "ThinkPad 760EL" and clicked Next.

Next window was "Windows 98 Setup Wizard" which showed
a ...your country or region... dialog window that was
defaulted to a highlighted United States. Clicked Next.

Next window was "Windows 98 Setup Wizard" which
said "Startup Disk" and stated "Setup will now create a
Startup Disk..." Since I have acces to this already (ie;
boot floppy), I chose "Cancel" over "<Back" and "Next".
This got me to a popup saying "Are you sure you want to
cancel setup?". Clicked "No". Clicked next.

Next a popup labeled "Insert Disk" prompted for labeling
and inserting a Windows 98 Startup Disk" (floppy for
booting). Did so despite the option to cancel making
one. (Clicked "Next").

Next came a prompt to click "Next" for wizard to search
for enough information to start copying Windows 98 files.
Wizard's page then changed to another same 'Wizard page
showing "Start Copying Files".

Clicked "Next". Next the "Windows 98 Setup" page returned
stating "Welcome to Microsoft Windows 98" ..sit back and
relax while Windows 98 installs on your computer..." Page
changed after briefly showing a status bar indicating
loading percentages. A lot of 'new this', 'easier that'
and such continued to load onto the page.

After about a half an hour, it looks like I will witht he
help of the MS' Newsgroup's hardworking volunteers, my
laptop is free (I hope) of the virus it had. At worst, I
will find it returned and if no chance of installing a
virus kill tool or scanner to work oncleaning files, at
least I got some experience needed to go on an learn how
to confidently Fdisk, repartition (Jeesh I dread that) and
wipe out the *#!@** thing once and for all.

A word of caution for readers, even if I'm wrong and
didn't get it from a downloaded application or file, get
some free antivirus installed. AVG scans destop
downloads, and automatically quaranteens any virus files
it's finds (when you tell it to scan). Maybe it even
detects it at other times with it's resident shield, but
not sure how that works.

Even my other laptop (32MB RAM) supports quite alot like
free Grisoft AVG, Adobe, Ad-ware, and even a full backup
along with a Regedit one too. Which remind me I need to
send the registry backup to floppy as it's obviously no
longer needed after a month of doing w/o the stuff I
carefully and cautiously removed (ie; McAfee, Symantec, PC
Doc, System Mechanic).

Whoa. Screen just went black and blinking cursor line, but
now I see it's a normal function after loading Windows
98SE. And oh **** it's now stopped at prompting for a
*#@&** key! Which I've lost!

Shows to go ya. If it can go wrong, it usually will.

So what now?

Never mind- I found the key. Anybody else wonder how? As
it assumedly had the same CD-ROM used to install (ie; both
laptops and CD-ROM are from same Seller), I simply went
into the other laptop and ran regedit & navigated to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersio
n. Then I clicked on the words "CurrentVersion" and found
in window on the right, see "Product Key" down the list.

Also a great personal website for reinstalls is Ron
Badour's (sorry about the 'restore' bit, but it get's you
to his site anyway:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

Thanks again Jeff!

Oooh, Man- Just noticed the setup stopped at:
"Welcome to the PC Card (PCMCIA) Wizard" It says, ...wiz'
will help remove existing PC Card drivers (which could
conflict with the 32-bit Windows drivers) and install the
32-bit Windows drivers needed to support PC cards." etc.,
etc. and asks "Are you using a PC Card (network card, CD-
ROM connected to a SDCSI card, etc.) to install Windows?"

Now, how the well do I know what that means. It is
defaulted to "No" and Yes is the only other option except
for <Back, Next, and Cancel. Hmmm. Stay tuned, or see
next post thread to this one.

Man just when I thought I was home free, now I'm stuck at
a Windows 98 Setup popup asking for me to tell it if I'm
using a PC Card (network card, CD-ROM connected to a SCSI
card, etc.) to install Windows?"

Duh...

Thanks Jeff. My reinstall (w/o the Fdisk, etc.), is due
to my not having the experience, except for the one time I
tried Fdisking and literally couldn't do anything after
that as I'd gotten lost at I gues the step where a
partition needed to be made, if one needed it.

As for the virus, it was Win95/CIH and two files of
Chernyoble, and even a trojan at the latter stages of my
trying to kill the stuff. Plus I'd deleted some 43
folders from Win98 and still the stuff would corrupt
headers being downloaded to try to fight it.

Eventually was so disabled that dial-up quit and even
reinstalls of ISP software failed to take.

Even if only a chance that I could have successfully
reinstalled w/o Fdisking and w/o the virus surviving, I'm
about forced to try it and then to immediately install
some uploaded floppy application files to fight it (if any
virus remained).

Anyway thanks again. If it doesn't work, then I got some
reinstall experience that I needed anyway.

As for Fdisking, that's easy, but from that point on, I
found the instructions terribly confusing.

I'm sure it's piece of cake after you've done it once, but
not even certain that I need to partition , and if so,
specifically how.

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Go here http://vil.nai.com/vil/default.asp

Run a search for CIH

Just tell you are not using any of these devices for installing Windows. It
needs to know this in order to install the minimal device support necessary
to get far enough into the process to do a proper detection of your
hardware.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
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