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New PC, 98 with old BIOS
Posted by William B. Lurie on April 4th, 2008


That's the best I can describe it.
I have a hard drive from my old PC and it won't
boot in Normal Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
it was mad with a different BIOS.

However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
Is there a way to get around this?
(I hope I made it clear enough).
Thanks.

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 4th, 2008


You need to reinstall all drivers. First, can you FIND all of the drivers
for the new hardware that will support Win98?

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 4th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
My new system is a Compaq Presario that has no
installation or maintenance CD. It has a separate
partition that is used for maintenance and they're
probably there somewhere. They're made for XPHome.
I have the 98 installation CD, are you suggesting
they are there? What, specifically, should I look
for, and what should I do with whatever I might find?
Remember, I'm part way home because at least I have
it running in Safe Mode.

I get other options with F8, but have no idea what
to do with them.

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 4th, 2008


1. Your new system very likely can't run Windows 98.
2. If it can, you go to the hardware manufacturers' sites and get the 98
drivers IF available.
3. No, the drivers you need aren't likely to be available. What model
Compaq? All you said is Presario. There's more to it than that.

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 4th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
not been able to go beyond Safe Mode.
In response to 2., I can pose the problem to HP but I'd be surprised
if they were interested in helping.
As for 3., I didn't think you'd want the complete model designation.
It is CPOMPAQ Presario SR1900NX Desktop PC

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 4th, 2008


You haven't been able to go beyond Safe Mode because of the lack of Normal
Mode drivers. If the drivers aren't available from HP (or the appropriate
manufacturer if a third-party unit), they aren't available. Knowing all
this, what kind of response are you looking for?

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 4th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
minor modification, to send to HP and ask them how I can get the
required drivers. It may be a dead end, but there's still a feasible
workaround: I can re-install 98 from scratch, and it will (I hope)
install with the proper drivers for this PC.

Posted by Franc Zabkar on April 4th, 2008


On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:17:33 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
<billurie@nospam.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

The following info may or may not help.

Product specs:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...190727&lang=en

Chipset - ATI Radeon Xpress 200 for Intel Processors
Integrated graphics
Integrated High Definition audio - Realtek ALC 883 chipset
Network (LAN) - Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Motherboard Specifications, P5LP-LE
(Altair)
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...262012&lang=en

Catalyst™ 6.2 Drivers and ATI Multimedia Software for Windows
98/Windows 98 SE/Windows ME
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/9...naiw-98me.html

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Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 5th, 2008


William, the point is that there are no such drivers. You need them, but
they don't exist and never will. In other words, you can't do what you want
to do.

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 8th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I'm installing Win 98 anew on an empty hard drive. I
am aware of the pitfalls involved with large RAM and
have cut back to 512MB. I understand that there may be
complications, in that my current MB runs at 3.1 GHz.
Are there patches or upgrades still available, for
Win 98, that I can download and use to upgrade my old
original issue Win98? Thank you.

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 9th, 2008


I give up!

YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME or NT
(maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you that. You need
drivers and there are no such things. They've never been written.

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 9th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
query was a request, as to whether there is a link to specific downloads
to upgrade Win 98 from my original CD, to a 98 with all the warts from
its original issuance removed. I could not find such on the Microsoft
download site, even thought there are specific places to click for
Win 98 downloads. I have installed Win 98 in VPC and I would like to
remove the warts before I install ME, using my 98 to ME CD.

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 9th, 2008


Play all you want, you aren't going to get anything decent out of 9x on that
hardware.

No, there is no "download' to upgrade Win98. To get from Win98 to Win98SE,
you have to buy an installation CD, just like you did with the ME Upgrade.
You can go to EBay to find one. Note that the OEM offering of Win98SE cannot
be used to Upgrade and must be clean installed.

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 9th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
see no reason to do Win98SE; I'm comfortable with the ME
upgrade. I would like to add, if there are any, and post-
release fixes for ME, or maybe it was just perfect and needed
no corrections.

Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 9th, 2008


Again, you won't be able to run Windows ME on that hardware. Windows ME has
Updates just like any other Windows.

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Posted by William B. Lurie on April 9th, 2008


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I have now installed 98 under VPC in this XP
machine and it's working fine. I have already upgraded
it, not to Win98SE, but to ME, and it is working fine.
What I'm seeking (and have asked Mike Maltby in the ME
newsgroup to help me with) are the upgrades for Win ME,
in such form that I can install them in the now running
ME system. I had no intention of going online from the
ME system, so what I need are download and Save links.

Posted by Franc Zabkar on April 9th, 2008


On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:00:42 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
<billurie@nospam.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Windows Millennium Edition (Me) Essential Free Upgrades + Fixes:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#WME

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Posted by Gary S. Terhune on April 9th, 2008


Sorry, I got going on a sidetrack. Totally missed the VPC reference.

Try Franc's link. Otherwise, I have a full set of Updates for Windows 98,
98SE and ME on CD. I ask $3. Email me at updates@grystmill.com if
interested.

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