have a windows 98 startup wizard page that requires a product key. don't
have one and don't know how to bypass this problem

Do a Google and you find lots of them or look back in this forum
"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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excuse my ignorance...but I would have to do this from another computer since
I can't get on my desktop. Do you mean I would be able to use just any
generic key??

"win98 fan " wrote:

"win98 fan " wrote:

Any windows '98 key you can find will do and to make it easy I'll hand you
the address
http://www.psico.univ.trieste.it/pub...8_serials.html
Good luck and Google more, it's worth it

"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Thank you soooo much...I found one that worked but now I keep getting an
error report and it shuts me down. Start up screen doesn't come up either.
Any good words of advice on this one?

"win98 fan " wrote:

Geez man, smell the coffee. You are using an illegal version of Windows
otherwise you'd not have had to find a product key as you'd have already had
one. Then you come asking for help because said illegal version doesn't work
properly. Now how the hell we supposed to know what you've actually
installed, where it came from and for that matter how it may have been
hacked in some way.

And you are doing this on a microsoft newsgroup maintained by the same
people you're ripping off!!!!

Go out and buy a legit product as clearly you need help and it comes with
some.

"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:31:02 -0800, Marie
<Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

What's the error report and when do you get it? More info would
help. Has your disk been wiped clean?

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

Come on pjp, ten year old technology and if you did it right, it has been
paid for in '98 or '99 and you want to keep getting money for it? I have
lots of computers that came with win'98, should I have send money to MS
every time I buy a $5 computer at a garage sale? A fair share, say 1%, would
make you happy? And then you send me a brand new registration key, manual
and CD?. How much do you ask for a key of win3.11, the ten floppy version?
Yep I'm still running that too on an old IBM 95ak. I know, museum stuff, but
if you claim I have to buy the key for a fair price just tell me where
(Oops they came without key, how do we solve this?) And does Billy still pay
the guys whose idea's he used to get the whole thing going from start? A
fair share? And this from the makers of Vista ?



"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
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You probably got that setup screen because the system detected some sort of
problem and initiated a re-installation procedure, using the installation
files stored on disk. You need to identify what sort of error occurred and
whether there are still problems with the machine.

Is yours a brand name PC, such as Dell? If so, the manufacturer will have
diagnostic software available for download, or it may already be installed
on your disk, and there will be a procedure for running diagnostics to
confirm that the machine is still operating properly. If it's old enough
to be running W98 it's probably old enough to be prone to hardware problems.

The other possibility is that you somehow started the machine with a W98
installation CD in the drive. In that case you have replaced your
installation of W98 with a different version, and it is likely that not all
of the correct drivers were installed. But as Bill says, we need more
details about the error, including the point in the startup process where it
occurs and the exact wording of the message, before it's possible to take a
guess at what's happening.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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pjp wrote:

Windows 98 can't / doesn't detect or know if it is using an "illegal"
product key.

Microsoft has no mechanism to communicate with win-98 systems and tell
them that specific keys are "illegal" (but it does this with Win-XP
systems all the time, probably Vista too).

If you want some keys, look here:

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/hyak...ft_serialz.pdf
http://www.psico.univ.trieste.it/pub...8_serials.html
http://lolekserwer.friko.pl/LOLEK/NS/SN.txt

Or use these:

F73HC-XYXR3-R34GV-B4F9M-XWTR8
P8M8D-X9F2M-37GPT-MKTMV-VVX8T
VTXBY-99K94-9C6CW-Q2FR4-8Q4VQ
BCM7H-BH7XW-JQC9R-Y3GDB-26B93
KXX9H-QVH8V-RP4VR-2XQ9X-VW2JH

ok guys - I am really not computer savy but I'll do my best here. After the
sign on screen I get the explorer message that program has performed illegal
operation and will be shut down. (It doesn't shut down...) I looked at the
details and it shows invalid page fault - exe 0197:00401F31 and then a whole
list of registers: EAX CS EIP EFLGS EBX SS ESP EPP ECX DS ESI FS EDX ES EDI
GS then Bytes at CS:EIP:stack dump. After I click on ok and expecting it to
shut down, it doesn't. Just get the blank green screen. If I do Cntrol Alt
Del no program shows up. If I do it again it will shut down. Please help me!

"Jeff Richards" wrote:

When you get an "illegal operation" error message, click the "Details" button, and
post back with the exact details *word for word*, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING the memory
registers.

The info you gave in your reply was incomplete. "invalid page fault - exe
0197:00401F31" is not what you saw. The message would name a particular .exe file
and would probably also name the module involved, such as "Explorer.exe caused an
invalid page fault in module kernel32.dll at 0197:00401F31" or something like that.
This is the info we need word for word as it appears in the error details, along
with exactly when the error occurs.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Okay - I just booted up again and it exactly says: EXPLORER caused an invalid
page fault in module EXPLORER.EXE @ 0197:00401f31. (Then the memory
registers are listed)

"glee" wrote:

"win98 fan " <not@home.net> wrote in message news:fj3mjr$69b$1@aioe.org...
Look guy, I didn't say anywhere I agreed with MS's policy. In fact, I detest
it. Just kinda stupid to expect help from an MS "sponsered" newsgroup.

To continue though ... MS demonstrates so clearly unbridled capitalism at
it's finist. In fact, I hate that social system so badly I'd tell Bill Gates
(and all the other corporate parasites feed off society) to get the hell off
my property and I'd not even phone 911 if he was bleeding to death out on
the road I detest the accepted morals and ethics of business in our society
that strongly. I'm not any sort of terrorist but I'd personally be very
happy to see the US (in particular) simply cease to exist as a nation.
Nothing but war mongering hypocrits intent on exploiting the rest of the
world to further their own greedy inhumane quest for money and power.
There's NOTHING for any US citizen to be proud of about their country from
my point of view.

Incidently, I've never bought any version of anything from MS. I have 7 pc's
right now running 98SE all off the same cd and it's legit because I have a
10 pc site license. I also have valid copy of ME, 2000 and both XP Home and
Pro. All of these are legit also, given to me or came via old pc's no longer
work. The only other OS I run on an 8th pc is a "no need to validate" copy
of XP Pro.

I'm sorry PJP, didn't mean to upset you, but if Chevrolet (GMC) can still
hand me the (reprinted) manual and shop manual for my 1926 Chevrolet one ton
truck + some tips about the what and how's , all for free, I call that a
100% service.

All I would like to see for MS to do something like it for the older OS
systems and not to sit on their product keys, to make a downloadable user
manual with tips and remarks. That they stopped the develop department is
understandable, it's too expensive to run a side line for that, but the
basic info that already brought the profit Billy needed, that's something
else. And if MS reads this, that's even better, they might decide to make a
special page for the older systems that aren't supported by the update page
anymore.



But it's logical to me that the OP in need of information about a product
turned to the producer of that product and expects them to help to continue
to use and enjoy their older stuff. And the only place where he can find it
now is the MS-newsgroup.



In my eyes Billy did nothing wrong, but he tried and failed to have the
computer OS monopoly, so now and even more after the great success of Vista
he needs some goodwill to keep his business going or Apple and Linux(+all
the variations of it) will steal his market. Still hoping that someone at
MS will actually read this.



Thanks for your input




"pjp" <pjpoirier_is_located_at_@_hotmail_._com> wrote in message
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pjp wrote:

Are you blind?

I've posted win-98 product keys in this thread.

And note -> Micro$oft doesn't sponsor or control this newsgroup.

Explorer Caused an Invalid Page Fault in Module...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/191609

http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/errexp...RREXPLORER.EXE
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Marie" <Marie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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98 Guy wrote:

Microsoft created the microsoft.* hierarchy and made it available to the
Usenet. Microsoft may not control what is posted or replicated on other
servers in the Usenet but it does control what is posted or replicated
on *their* servers (msnews), for example, Microsoft removes spam and
inappropriate posts on their servers pretty well every day, if others
who run news servers "synchronize" to the Microsoft servers these posts
will also be removed on their servers, if others just add new posts then
their servers may contain posts which aren't on Microsoft servers, these
posts are usually mostly spam and porn related. Finally, the one who
started this thread, Marie, posted using the Windows 2000 CDO. That
tells me she posted to the discussion groups directly accessed at
Micorsoft.com and hosted on Microsoft servers. Microsoft *does*
"sponsors" the groups there (they pay for the servers and the
maintenance) and they *can* control what is posted there, they can
remove any posts they want on their servers and they can kick anyone
they want of their servers!

John

Full-quoter John John wrote:

Probably they did. Lots of groups are or have been created by
individuals and organizations over the years.

It doesn't matter who created a given group or set of groups. If
they're propagated outside the organization that created it, then they
will have no control over what is posted, nor on what is removed.

Only usenet makes posts available to usenet. Microsoft plays no role
in making any MS group "available" to usenet. Microsoft's NNTP
servers play no special or unique role in the availability or
propagation of MS usenet groups.

The operator of any NNTP server can control or perform oversight and
removal of posts. The removal of posts on a local system almost NEVER
means that same post is also removed from other NNTP servers elsewhere
on the net.

And I see that my post on Wed. Dec 5 (where I posted links to various
MS product keys, and specifically posted 5 win-98se product keys) was
removed or is otherwise not being shown on the ms technet interface to
this group.

Must keep someone busy at MS to censor posts like that.

Anyone who wants to see the FULL, UNCENSORED version of this thread,
should look here:

http://tinyurl.com/27xre3

There are 19 posts. Only 11 are being shown on the MS server.

There is a post on Dec. 4 by Bill Watt that was removed (no idea
why). Several posts by win98_fan have also been removed.

Oddly, there is a Dec 5 post by the OP (Marie) that also doesn't show
up on the MS server, and it contains nothing that I'd consider as
censorship material, so it's not clear to me why it's not showing up
on the MS server. Maybe you can explain it.

Here is a link to the technet posts:

http://tinyurl.com/ynqp82

You'll have to expand the tree beside the "No product key" thread.

Doubt it.

Posts that make it to the MS server (but are removed later by a
censor) would have been propagated to other servers. The vast
majority of usenet operators do not honor external message cancels, so
even if MS sent one out (which is only speculation that they do) it is
highly unlikely to be honored by the operators of other servers.