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Swap File Showing Incorrect Size
Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory. (3000 Min.
and 3000 Max)
Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
Any ideas for the discrepancy?

Thanks,
James


Posted by Will Denny on February 29th, 2004


Hi James

I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile - 3GBs is 'rather' large.

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"JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory. (3000 Min.
| and 3000 Max)
| Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| Any ideas for the discrepancy?
|
| Thanks,
| James
|
|


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Posted by Rick T on February 29th, 2004


JamesJ wrote:

Check your settings for min & max size, if they look like what you think
they should, reboot to DOS from a floppy disk and delete the .swp file,
then reboot into Windows (which will rebuild the swapfile).

How much free space do you have on the drive ? Subtract RecycleBin and
Restore reserved amounts in case you don't have as much as you think you do.

3GB is way overkill, unless you have a program that specifically
requires that much.



Rick

Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


....and fixing the swapfile size also tends to change its placement - what
the OP may be seeing is the old swapfile, rather than the current one.

FWIW - there is VERY RARELY any good reason to fix the file size -
especially at such a high figure
I'd recommend letting Windows manage the filesize under almost all
circumstances

I'd be interested to know James' reasons for this??


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Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is limited to
files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???

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Hi James

I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile - 3GBs is
'rather' large.

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"JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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| I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory. (3000 Min.
| and 3000 Max)
| Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| Any ideas for the discrepancy?
|
| Thanks,
| James
|
|


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Posted by Will Denny on February 29th, 2004


Yes 2GB. I've tried various Win 9x OSes with 1.5 Gbs RAM installed - it's not easy to make them work with the default Swap File set to 1.5x the amount of RAM installed.

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| IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is limited to
| files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???
|
| --
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| "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
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| Hi James
|
| I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile - 3GBs is
| 'rather' large.
|
| --
|
| Will Denny
| MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
|
|
| "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory. (3000 Min.
| | and 3000 Max)
| | Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| | Any ideas for the discrepancy?
| |
| | Thanks,
| | James
| |
| |
|
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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


I've always setup a permanent swap file and I've always used 2.5 or 3 times
my actual physical memory. I'm not a mathematician but, I have 1 gb of
installed
RAM, isn't that 1,000 mb?
If it's to large for Win9x I'll tone it down but why the discrepancy??

Thanks,
James

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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


On my old system when I had only a 12gb hard drive I was using a perminant
swap
file to conserve disk space or rather so I can have more control over it.
Now I have a
40 gb hard drive and I have about 90% of it free...... Maybe I have no good
reason
now but might I set a maximum size??

Thanks,
James

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Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


As I said before, there's almost NEVER a good reason for a huge (or even
fixed) swapfile - the more RAM you have, the less the need for ANY
swapfile - and most systems with 1GB+ can survive quite well on a swapfile
of 100MB or less (if only the running apps would let it!)

The problem arises when running apps specify the swapfile size required on
loading - which they shouldn't (but many do). The more of that type you
have, the more VM you need - irrespective of the RAM available.

Since ME came out, and RAM got so cheap and processor so fast, a lot of
people are running many more apps than it was originally envisaged that they
would - with resulting problems with Resources.
For some reason, many people confuse Resources with Memory - and the fun
starts.



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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


I see your point. Since I have no need to conserve disk space
and it should be one less thing I shouldn't be concerned about.

Thanks,
James

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Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


You don't - there's an automatic maximum of 2GB (or perhaps 4GB), or however
much disk space there is (whichever is the smaller).

Just let Windows manage it completely!!!


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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


One more observation. Fragmentation. Wouldn't a permanent swap file
keep fragmentation at a minimum?

James

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Posted by Will Denny on February 29th, 2004


Hi James

There is no need to have a massive Swap file unless you are editing a lot of video files all at the same time. It will use up a lot of hard disk space that could be utilised for other purposes. BG wasn't a mathematician either - look where that got him :-))

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"JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:%23TUPNmw$DHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| I've always setup a permanent swap file and I've always used 2.5 or 3 times
| my actual physical memory. I'm not a mathematician but, I have 1 gb of
| installed
| RAM, isn't that 1,000 mb?
| If it's to large for Win9x I'll tone it down but why the discrepancy??
|
| Thanks,
| James
|
| "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| news:u9$lFcw$DHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is limited to
| > files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???
| >
| > --
| > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| >
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| > "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > news:eEbJAVw$DHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > Hi James
| >
| > I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile - 3GBs is
| > 'rather' large.
| >
| > --
| >
| > Will Denny
| > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >
| >
| > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| > news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory. (3000
| Min.
| > | and 3000 Max)
| > | Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| > | Any ideas for the discrepancy?
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > | James
| > |
| > |
| >
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Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


perhaps - but putting the swapfile into its own partition would do the same.
fragmentation delays on an unused swapfile are zero anyhow!

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Posted by Will Denny on February 29th, 2004


Noel - I've just tried a Defrag on a Win 9x partition. The Swap file was defragmented, but couldn't be defragged and moved. Ergo - a permanent Swap File wouldn't necessarily help minimise the fragmentation of a hard disk/partition.

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"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:%23jyIL0w$DHA.2804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| perhaps - but putting the swapfile into its own partition would do the same.
| fragmentation delays on an unused swapfile are zero anyhow!
|
| --
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| "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| news:%23py3fxw$DHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > One more observation. Fragmentation. Wouldn't a permanent swap file
| > keep fragmentation at a minimum?
| >
| > James
| >
| > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| > news:es6rdqw$DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > > As I said before, there's almost NEVER a good reason for a huge (or even
| > > fixed) swapfile - the more RAM you have, the less the need for ANY
| > > swapfile - and most systems with 1GB+ can survive quite well on a
| swapfile
| > > of 100MB or less (if only the running apps would let it!)
| > >
| > > The problem arises when running apps specify the swapfile size required
| on
| > > loading - which they shouldn't (but many do). The more of that type you
| > > have, the more VM you need - irrespective of the RAM available.
| > >
| > > Since ME came out, and RAM got so cheap and processor so fast, a lot of
| > > people are running many more apps than it was originally envisaged that
| > they
| > > would - with resulting problems with Resources.
| > > For some reason, many people confuse Resources with Memory - and the fun
| > > starts.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > --
| > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| > >
| > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| > >
| > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
| NG's
| > >
| > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| > > news:%23TUPNmw$DHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > I've always setup a permanent swap file and I've always used 2.5 or 3
| > > times
| > > > my actual physical memory. I'm not a mathematician but, I have 1 gb of
| > > > installed
| > > > RAM, isn't that 1,000 mb?
| > > > If it's to large for Win9x I'll tone it down but why the discrepancy??
| > > >
| > > > Thanks,
| > > > James
| > > >
| > > > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| > > > news:u9$lFcw$DHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > > > > IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is limited
| > to
| > > > > files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| > > > >
| > > > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| > > > >
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| > > NG's
| > > > >
| > > > > "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > > > > news:eEbJAVw$DHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > > Hi James
| > > > >
| > > > > I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile - 3GBs
| > is
| > > > > 'rather' large.
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > >
| > > > > Will Denny
| > > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| > > > > news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > > | I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory.
| > (3000
| > > > Min.
| > > > > | and 3000 Max)
| > > > > | Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| > > > > | Any ideas for the discrepancy?
| > > > > |
| > > > > | Thanks,
| > > > > | James
| > > > > |
| > > > > |
| > > > >
| > > > >
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| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
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Posted by Noel Paton on February 29th, 2004


It would do - if you used Norton SpeedDisk as defragger. This puts the
swapfile at the front of the drive in a single block and fixes the size (if
you use the 'Optimize' [sic] option)


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"Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
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Noel - I've just tried a Defrag on a Win 9x partition. The Swap file was
defragmented, but couldn't be defragged and moved. Ergo - a permanent Swap
File wouldn't necessarily help minimise the fragmentation of a hard
disk/partition.

--

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MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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| perhaps - but putting the swapfile into its own partition would do the
same.
| fragmentation delays on an unused swapfile are zero anyhow!
|
| --
| Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
|
| Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
|
| Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
|
| "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| news:%23py3fxw$DHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > One more observation. Fragmentation. Wouldn't a permanent swap file
| > keep fragmentation at a minimum?
| >
| > James
| >
| > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| > news:es6rdqw$DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > > As I said before, there's almost NEVER a good reason for a huge (or
even
| > > fixed) swapfile - the more RAM you have, the less the need for ANY
| > > swapfile - and most systems with 1GB+ can survive quite well on a
| swapfile
| > > of 100MB or less (if only the running apps would let it!)
| > >
| > > The problem arises when running apps specify the swapfile size
required
| on
| > > loading - which they shouldn't (but many do). The more of that type
you
| > > have, the more VM you need - irrespective of the RAM available.
| > >
| > > Since ME came out, and RAM got so cheap and processor so fast, a lot
of
| > > people are running many more apps than it was originally envisaged
that
| > they
| > > would - with resulting problems with Resources.
| > > For some reason, many people confuse Resources with Memory - and the
fun
| > > starts.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > --
| > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| > >
| > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| > >
| > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
| NG's
| > >
| > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| > > news:%23TUPNmw$DHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > I've always setup a permanent swap file and I've always used 2.5 or
3
| > > times
| > > > my actual physical memory. I'm not a mathematician but, I have 1 gb
of
| > > > installed
| > > > RAM, isn't that 1,000 mb?
| > > > If it's to large for Win9x I'll tone it down but why the
discrepancy??
| > > >
| > > > Thanks,
| > > > James
| > > >
| > > > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| > > > news:u9$lFcw$DHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > > > > IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is
limited
| > to
| > > > > files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| > > > >
| > > > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| > > > >
| > > > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
| > > NG's
| > > > >
| > > > > "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > > > > news:eEbJAVw$DHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > > Hi James
| > > > >
| > > > > I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile -
3GBs
| > is
| > > > > 'rather' large.
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > >
| > > > > Will Denny
| > > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| > > > > news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > > > | I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory.
| > (3000
| > > > Min.
| > > > > | and 3000 Max)
| > > > > | Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| > > > > | Any ideas for the discrepancy?
| > > > > |
| > > > > | Thanks,
| > > > > | James
| > > > > |
| > > > > |
| > > > >
| > > > >
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| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
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Posted by Will Denny on February 29th, 2004


As I won't let ****any**** Norton products anywhere near any of my PCs I hadn't realised this - thanks Noel.

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"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:%23XZk1$w$DHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| It would do - if you used Norton SpeedDisk as defragger. This puts the
| swapfile at the front of the drive in a single block and fixes the size (if
| you use the 'Optimize' [sic] option)
|
|
| --
| Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
|
| Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
|
| Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
|
| "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
| news:e%23l3%237w$DHA.1844@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Noel - I've just tried a Defrag on a Win 9x partition. The Swap file was
| defragmented, but couldn't be defragged and moved. Ergo - a permanent Swap
| File wouldn't necessarily help minimise the fragmentation of a hard
| disk/partition.
|
| --
|
| Will Denny
| MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
|
|
| "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| news:%23jyIL0w$DHA.2804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | perhaps - but putting the swapfile into its own partition would do the
| same.
| | fragmentation delays on an unused swapfile are zero anyhow!
| |
| | --
| | Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| |
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| |
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| | "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| | news:%23py3fxw$DHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | > One more observation. Fragmentation. Wouldn't a permanent swap file
| | > keep fragmentation at a minimum?
| | >
| | > James
| | >
| | > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| | > news:es6rdqw$DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| | > > As I said before, there's almost NEVER a good reason for a huge (or
| even
| | > > fixed) swapfile - the more RAM you have, the less the need for ANY
| | > > swapfile - and most systems with 1GB+ can survive quite well on a
| | swapfile
| | > > of 100MB or less (if only the running apps would let it!)
| | > >
| | > > The problem arises when running apps specify the swapfile size
| required
| | on
| | > > loading - which they shouldn't (but many do). The more of that type
| you
| | > > have, the more VM you need - irrespective of the RAM available.
| | > >
| | > > Since ME came out, and RAM got so cheap and processor so fast, a lot
| of
| | > > people are running many more apps than it was originally envisaged
| that
| | > they
| | > > would - with resulting problems with Resources.
| | > > For some reason, many people confuse Resources with Memory - and the
| fun
| | > > starts.
| | > >
| | > >
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| | > >
| | > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| | > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| | > >
| | > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
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| | > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| | > > news:%23TUPNmw$DHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | > > > I've always setup a permanent swap file and I've always used 2.5 or
| 3
| | > > times
| | > > > my actual physical memory. I'm not a mathematician but, I have 1 gb
| of
| | > > > installed
| | > > > RAM, isn't that 1,000 mb?
| | > > > If it's to large for Win9x I'll tone it down but why the
| discrepancy??
| | > > >
| | > > > Thanks,
| | > > > James
| | > > >
| | > > > "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
| | > > > news:u9$lFcw$DHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| | > > > > IIRC, it's actually 'too large' for a Win9x system, which is
| limited
| | > to
| | > > > > files of 4GB - or effectively 2GB???
| | > > > >
| | > > > > --
| | > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
| | > > > >
| | > > > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| | > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
| | > > > >
| | > > > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
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| | > > NG's
| | > > > >
| | > > > > "Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
| | > > > > news:eEbJAVw$DHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | > > > > Hi James
| | > > > >
| | > > > > I think that you need to downsize the spec. for your Swapfile -
| 3GBs
| | > is
| | > > > > 'rather' large.
| | > > > >
| | > > > > --
| | > > > >
| | > > > > Will Denny
| | > > > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| | > > > >
| | > > > >
| | > > > > "JamesJ" <jjy@adelphia.net> wrote in message
| | > > > > news:OLVi2Qw$DHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| | > > > > | I've specified a 3000 mb permanent swap file in virtual memory.
| | > (3000
| | > > > Min.
| | > > > > | and 3000 Max)
| | > > > > | Explorer is reporting the size of WIN386.SWP as 100 mb.
| | > > > > | Any ideas for the discrepancy?
| | > > > > |
| | > > > > | Thanks,
| | > > > > | James
| | > > > > |
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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


Thanks to all for the advise.

Thanks again,
James

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Posted by JamesJ on February 29th, 2004


Thanks to all for the advise.

Thanks again,
James

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Posted by Rick T on February 29th, 2004


Noel Paton wrote:

2 gigabytes... er wait 2 gig for an .avi file, 4 gig for ... dammit I
used to know this.



Rick


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