Hello everyone,

this is my first post here, and a problem at the beginning:

I have a MSDN version of XP MCE 2005 installed on Shuttle barebone.
After one month of efforts of making it run STABLE with my AIW 9800 SE
(crashed in 20 - 60 minutes, my guess is buggy software encoder), after
tons of email to ATI support (I wonder did they ever help anyone with
this kind of attitude) I have decided to go for HW TV receiver /
encoder to make it rock-stable.

I have to mention now I live in Poland, and receive ca 60 channels of
SD encoded in PAL D/K (which differs from Western-European PAL B/G with
audio frequency shift - 6,5 MHz instead of 5,5 MHz), with audio mostly
in NICAM, some in A2, and rest - mono. The AIW 9800 - when worked -
got perfect picture and MONO sound.

The first - and for the time being only - HW TV tuner / MPEG Encoder I
have got is ATI Theater 550 PRO. It works like a charm when talking
about the picture. Sharp clean and stable. It gives good stereo audio -
but not in MCE 2005! The card gives proper audio only with the bundled
PowerCinema 3.0 ! In MCE 2005 all I hear is static white noise...

After some fight with ATI support (I wouldn't be here if they were
useful), I have done some investigations on the system: MCE Test
toolkit 3.0, GraphEdit and what I have found is that MCE uses the tuner
like if it was receiving PAL B/G (frequency gap between audio and video
is set to 5,5 MHz, not 6,5 MHz!). Why? Because standard settings for
Windows XP TV Tuning libraries set the Poland cable standard to PAL B/G
! OK, maybe MCETuningOverrides.xml ? Nope. Setting system to PAL_D
instead of PAL_B does not work.

I have done some experiments with graphedit to create a preview graph
of tv, but without success. I'll give it one more try later.

I guess there's something on between MS and ATI, both of them not
taking responsibility of their part (ATI 550 PRO is not on HCL, but ATI
claims it MCE 2005 compatible...).

The question to you guys (especially MS MVPs ) :

how do I get my sound right in MCE?

Thanks in advance,

nbert

Hi Norbert,

hmm, it looks like Microsoft got the TV standard for Poland wrong. Look at
this table:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...yassignments.a
sp

Poland is specified as using PAL-B/G there, not PAL-D/K. However, other
places on the Internet say that Poland is indeed using PAL-D/K as you
wrote.

Now I see you already fixed this in the file MCETuningOverrides.xml. Did
you try setting up BOTH the TV signal and the EPG in MCE again after making
that change _and_ rebooting? And when you set up the EPG, did you select an
"unmapped" lineup, so that MCE ran a channel scan?

If all that doesn't help, and you have some knowledge about how to edit
resources and replacing protected Windows binaries, you could try editing
the resource which is compiled from the table shown at the link above and
correcting the video standard in there. The binary is called KSTVTUNE.AX,
and IIRC it is the RCDATA resource with the ID 9999 which contains the
table. You'll find a binary version of the table in there, in which each of
the four values in each line should be represented as four DWORDs (of 4
bytes each, totalling 16 bytes per line). Find the video standard for
Poland, change it to PAL_D, save the changes, replace the old KSTVTUNE.AX
(circumventing WFP somehow) and see if that helps...

Regards,«
--
Robert Schlabbach
e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net
Berlin, Germany

"nbert" <norbert.franke@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1134299292.463323.15030@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> this is my first post here, and a problem at the beginning:
>
> I have a MSDN version of XP MCE 2005 installed on Shuttle barebone.
> After one month of efforts of making it run STABLE with my AIW 9800 SE
> (crashed in 20 - 60 minutes, my guess is buggy software encoder), after
> tons of email to ATI support (I wonder did they ever help anyone with
> this kind of attitude) I have decided to go for HW TV receiver /
> encoder to make it rock-stable.
>
> I have to mention now I live in
Poland, and receive ca 60 channels of
> SD encoded in PAL D/K (which differs from Western-European PAL B/G with
> audio frequency shift - 6,5 MHz instead of 5,5 MHz), with audio mostly
> in NICAM, some in A2, and rest - mono. The AIW 9800 - when worked -
> got perfect picture and MONO sound.
>
> The first - and for the time being only - HW TV tuner / MPEG Encoder I
> have got is ATI Theater 550 PRO. It works like a charm when talking
> about the picture. Sharp clean and stable. It gives good stereo audio -
> but not in MCE 2005! The card gives proper audio only with the bundled
> PowerCinema 3.0 ! In MCE 2005 all I hear is static white noise...
>
> After some fight with ATI support (I wouldn't be here if they were
> useful), I have done some investigations on the system: MCE Test
> toolkit 3.0, GraphEdit and what I have found is that MCE uses the tuner
> like if it was receiving PAL B/G (frequency gap between audio and video
> is set to 5,5 MHz, not 6,5 MHz!). Why? Because standard settings for
> Windows XP TV Tuning libraries set the Poland cable standard to PAL B/G
> ! OK, maybe MCETuningOverrides.xml ? Nope. Setting system to PAL_D
> instead of PAL_B does not work.
>
> I have done some experiments with graphedit to create a preview graph
> of tv, but without success. I'll give it one more try later.
>
> I guess there's something on between MS and ATI, both of them not
> taking responsibility of their part (ATI 550 PRO is not on HCL, but ATI
> claims it MCE 2005 compatible...).
>
> The question to you guys (especially MS MVPs ) :
>
> how do I get my sound right in MCE?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> nbert

Robert, you are a god of MCE

May the Force be with you!

I' ll just cherish my WORKING MCE 2005 for few hours more and get back
to tell how was it and how I made it work

Thanks again!

Well, what made it work...?

Regards,«
--
Robert Schlabbach
e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net
Berlin, Germany

"nbert" <norbert.franke@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1134340680.572259.78000@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Robert, you are a god of MCE
>
> May the Force be with you!
>
> I' ll just cherish my WORKING MCE 2005 for few hours more and get back
> to tell how was it and how I made it work
>
> Thanks again!

Try set region: Romania (Rumunia) sound will work, but TV Guide did'n work
with this settings.

Pozdr. LEVY

Can someone try and help me to?
I have a similar problem
ATI 550 card, which is NTSC and I live in Israel which is PAL-B

Is there a way to make windows think the card is pal instead of NTSC?
I use a set top box, so frequencies are irrelevant, just the encoding method


"Robert Schlabbach" wrote:

> Well, what made it work...?
>
> Regards,«
> --
> Robert Schlabbach
> e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net
> Berlin, Germany
>
> "nbert" <norbert.franke@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1134340680.572259.78000@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > Robert, you are a god of MCE
> >
> > May the Force be with you!
> >
> > I' ll just cherish my WORKING MCE 2005 for few hours more and get back
> > to tell how was it and how I made it work
> >
> > Thanks again!
>
>
>