- Vista Tuners
- Posted by Eagle117 on October 4th, 2005
Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be supported
by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to have a
tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it is
supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of tuners
that are/will be supported by Vista?
Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this question in
if it isn't appropriate for this one?
- Posted by Doug Knox MS-MVP on October 4th, 2005
This will be up to the manufacturer to provide Vista compatible drivers.
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"Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5A0FA2AD-C1FD-47E9-B5C8-FF8F1FBEFC89@microsoft.com...
> Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be supported
> by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to have a
> tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it is
> supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of tuners
> that are/will be supported by Vista?
>
> Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this question in
> if it isn't appropriate for this one?
- Posted by Eagle117 on October 4th, 2005
To my knowledge no manufacturer has released any form of drivers for Vista
tuners. Are any included with the beta of Vista or how are people testing
out this functionality?
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> This will be up to the manufacturer to provide Vista compatible drivers.
>
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> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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> "Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5A0FA2AD-C1FD-47E9-B5C8-FF8F1FBEFC89@microsoft.com...
> > Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be supported
> > by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to have a
> > tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it is
> > supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of tuners
> > that are/will be supported by Vista?
> >
> > Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this question in
> > if it isn't appropriate for this one?
>
- Posted by Doug Knox MS-MVP on October 4th, 2005
At this point, there are no tuner drivers distributed with the current build of Vista, that I'm aware of. You might be able to run some of the current 32 bit drivers, but then again, you may not.
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"Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3981C635-5914-4E3B-B745-25DD5F2BD823@microsoft.com...
> To my knowledge no manufacturer has released any form of drivers for Vista
> tuners. Are any included with the beta of Vista or how are people testing
> out this functionality?
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> This will be up to the manufacturer to provide Vista compatible drivers.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
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>> "Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5A0FA2AD-C1FD-47E9-B5C8-FF8F1FBEFC89@microsoft.com...
>> > Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be supported
>> > by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to have a
>> > tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it is
>> > supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of tuners
>> > that are/will be supported by Vista?
>> >
>> > Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this question in
>> > if it isn't appropriate for this one?
>>
- Posted by JW on October 4th, 2005
Has MS actually announced that the current tuner drivers for MCE 2005 will
not work with Vista and that the vendors must supply new ones?
"Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
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At this point, there are no tuner drivers distributed with the current build
of Vista, that I'm aware of. You might be able to run some of the current
32 bit drivers, but then again, you may not.
--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> To my knowledge no manufacturer has released any form of drivers for Vista
> tuners. Are any included with the beta of Vista or how are people testing
> out this functionality?
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> This will be up to the manufacturer to provide Vista compatible drivers.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>> Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
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>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
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>> "Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5A0FA2AD-C1FD-47E9-B5C8-FF8F1FBEFC89@microsoft.com...
>> > Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be
>> > supported
>> > by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to
>> > have a
>> > tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it
>> > is
>> > supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of
>> > tuners
>> > that are/will be supported by Vista?
>> >
>> > Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this
>> > question in
>> > if it isn't appropriate for this one?
>>
- Posted by Doug Knox MS-MVP on October 5th, 2005
The driver model is changing for Vista. I don't have all the details, I'm not that much of a programmer, but I'm sure that the majority of drivers will need to be overhauled for Vista.
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"JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message news:uSD29aTyFHA.2960@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Has MS actually announced that the current tuner drivers for MCE 2005 will
> not work with Vista and that the vendors must supply new ones?
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uOiujDTyFHA.788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> At this point, there are no tuner drivers distributed with the current build
> of Vista, that I'm aware of. You might be able to run some of the current
> 32 bit drivers, but then again, you may not.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
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> "Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3981C635-5914-4E3B-B745-25DD5F2BD823@microsoft.com...
>> To my knowledge no manufacturer has released any form of drivers for Vista
>> tuners. Are any included with the beta of Vista or how are people testing
>> out this functionality?
>>
>> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>>
>>> This will be up to the manufacturer to provide Vista compatible drivers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>>> Display\Security
>>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>>> http://www.dougknox.com
>>> --------------------------------
>>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>>> --------------------------------
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>>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>>
>>> "Eagle117" <Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5A0FA2AD-C1FD-47E9-B5C8-FF8F1FBEFC89@microsoft.com...
>>> > Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be
>>> > supported
>>> > by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to
>>> > have a
>>> > tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it
>>> > is
>>> > supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of
>>> > tuners
>>> > that are/will be supported by Vista?
>>> >
>>> > Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this
>>> > question in
>>> > if it isn't appropriate for this one?
>>>
>
>
- Posted by Moonshine on October 5th, 2005
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 13:39:08 -0700, "Eagle117"
<Eagle117@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Can it be assumed that all major tuners supported by XP MCE will be supported
>by Vista? I'm going to load up my Vista Beta soon and would like to have a
>tuner for it. I already have a Hauppauge MCE-150 that I love and if it is
>supported, I'll use it in this machine. Is there a starter list of tuners
>that are/will be supported by Vista?
>
>Side question: Is there a Vista community that I could ask this question in
>if it isn't appropriate for this one?
Good Thread...
Can anyone provide experience of the Black Gold DVB-t tuner card.
Does anyone have this working with Vista?
Thanks
- Posted by Robert Schlabbach on October 5th, 2005
"Moonshine" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone provide experience of the Black Gold DVB-t tuner card.
> Does anyone have this working with Vista?
A bug in Vista Beta 1 prevents _any_ BDA minidriver from successfully
loading. Thus, the only way for a DVB-T card to work is if it uses a
proprietary non-BDA driver. Some manufacturers offer both proprietary as
well as BDA drivers. In such cases the former _might_ work, whereas the
latter definitely will not.
Regards,«
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- Posted by Moonshine on October 5th, 2005
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:14:57 +0200, "Robert Schlabbach"
<robert_s@gmx.net> wrote:
>"Moonshine" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:h417k15h2gv9kc68q6gqh68bighhoi6gm7@4ax.com.. .
>> Can anyone provide experience of the Black Gold DVB-t tuner card.
>> Does anyone have this working with Vista?
>
>A bug in Vista Beta 1 prevents _any_ BDA minidriver from successfully
>loading. Thus, the only way for a DVB-T card to work is if it uses a
>proprietary non-BDA driver. Some manufacturers offer both proprietary as
>well as BDA drivers. In such cases the former _might_ work, whereas the
>latter definitely will not.
>
>Regards,«
Thanks Robert,
Do you know if a hot fix is likely to be made available or will we
have to wait till next beta? Are there any work arounds (reg hacks)
that will get the BDA driver loaded?
This was quite an over sight :-(
- Posted by Robert Schlabbach on October 5th, 2005
"Moonshine" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:14:57 +0200, "Robert Schlabbach"
> <robert_s@gmx.net> wrote:
> >A bug in Vista Beta 1 prevents _any_ BDA minidriver
> >from successfully loading.
>
> Do you know if a hot fix is likely to be made available
I don't think so.
> or will we have to wait till next beta?
Microsoft has announced there'll be monthly CTPs of Windows Vista, so
there'll be releases before the next beta.
> Are there any work arounds (reg hacks)
> that will get the BDA driver loaded?
Well, you can patch the offending binary (BdaSup.sys), but putting the
patched binary is quite a challenge now that Microsoft is employing NTFS
security to protect Windows systems binaries. It's probably easier just to
wait for a future CTP which hopefully fixes this issue.
> This was quite an over sight :-(
Well, considering the general broken-ness of the current Vista beta's
multimedia features, this just fits in the picture, unfortunately. Don't
think that managing to make a BDA driver load is sufficient for a
satisfactory digital TV experience in Vista Beta 1... 
Regards,«
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e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net
Berlin, Germany
