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Moving from peer2peer to server based network - need help
Posted by mastertony@gmail.com on March 25th, 2007


Hi all,

I work for a small company where about 7 to 10 PCs are exchanging
files between each other on a p2p layout.

As the IT guy there, I am constantly being asked to provide solutions
to the users where only on a server based network this would be
possible to deploy such as shared contacts, calendar, CRM, etc...
there are other obvious reasons why the move is required.

So I've made a decision to go with dell and chose a well spec'd
Poweredge 2900 for the job. It will come with SBS2k3 standard with 4
GB RAM, good processor, 2x 146GB Hard drives on RAID 1 etc...

Our current backup solution is simply portable hard drives (120gb
each), 3 on rotation... etc... this works OK for us. When I asked dell
for a server solution I was quoted the above server with a tape backup
unit which took the quote up quite a bit and for other reasons we
would prefer not use tapes to backup.

I was thinking in using DAS (direct access storage) or NAS (network
accessible storage) for backup purpose. I have been looking into DAS -
the enclosure costs about £150 then I would buy the SATA drives for it
and set either JBOD, RAID 0 or RAID 1
So my question to you guys is: What is best to use - DAS or NAS - on a
server based network that would be used for backup and possible direct
access by the users connected to the server?

I guess what I want to be able to do is to use this DAS or NAS
solution (whichever is suggested as best for my needs) for direct
access and/or my daily server backup.
My off-site backup would then be done by connecting my portable hard
drives onto this DAS or NAS and sync the data - this is done weekly!

Please let me know if my idea is not feasibly and if I should rethink
my storage/backup plans for the server based network move.

Many thanks in advance for your views!

Tony

Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on March 26th, 2007


mastertony@gmail.com wrote:
Software or hardware RAID, and what kind of drives? I use SCSI or SAS - no
IDE or SATA. I would see if you can include a global hotspare, too.
4GB RAM is probably overkill.
As long as you're storing backups offsite, that's fine. I do suggest you use
the 'wrapper' SBS puts around NTBackup....

I'm just curious - if you already have your removable hard drives, and like
'em, why not keep 'em? Or use tape (I prefer tape, but I'm old-fashioned).
Backups across the network are usually sucky.
I would invest more in disk drives for the server itself rather than go this
route - it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Do nightly full backups to your backup medium of choice....I can't see any
reason not to. It shouldn't take that long. Do *everything* - system state,
online Exchange databases, and your users' data files - using
NTBackup/SBSBackup. It really keeps things simpler.

Hope the above helps even though I haven't specifically answered your
NAS/DAS questions - but for SBS stuff, you might post in
m.p.windows.server.sbs. It does a lot of things its own way, and I suspect
you'll get a lot of help in there. Also, if you haven't worked much with AD
& Exchange before (or, even if you have, if you haven't worked with the SBS
incarnations of same), make sure you follow *all* the myriad setup wizards
to a T, for both the server install *and* the client configs - or you'll end
up with a real mess. I speak from experience.




Posted by Matt Lee on March 28th, 2007


I am sorry to but in on your thread but I cannot post a new question or
comment to save my life. Here is my 'delimma'. I have an interview tomorrow
with a web hosting company and I really need and want the position. I was
hoping the community might point me in some direction or any kind of pointers.

Please help!!!!
--
Matt Lee


"mastertony@gmail.com" wrote:

Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on March 28th, 2007


Matt Lee <MattLee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Here's information on Usenet and using a newsreader, cribbed shamelessly
from MVP Malke Routh:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page3.html#12-09-02 - a brief
explanation of newsgroups
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlo...ssnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...wto/default.asp
- Set Up Newsreader

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
working properly
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm - how to munge email address
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting vs.
crossposting

Some newsreaders for Windows
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php - for Forte
http://www.mozilla.org (Thunderbird does newsgroups)
http://gravity.tbates.org/


Dilemma, actually. Yes, it's true - spelling counts.

Be honest about your skills and experience. That's all I can really advise.






Posted by Lars Petersson on March 28th, 2007


Depending on your internet connection, there is one solution you haven't
mentioned, but which might be worth considering.
Namely backing up to an on-line back-up solutions provider.

That way you know that the files are always available and you wouldn't have
to worry about off-site back-up.

Some of them are reasonably cheap and aim specifically for smallish company
like yours.
PC PRO in England reviewed some of them a little while ago, but I can't
remember any company names right now, sorry.
--
Cheerio,
Lars Petersson
MCSA: Messaging
mr-eleganza.livejournal.com


"mastertony@gmail.com" wrote:

Posted by Matt Lee on March 28th, 2007


I think I didnt expain correctly. I have a job interview with a web hosting
company and was wondering what kind of questions I might get. I really want
the job
--
Matt Lee


"Lars Petersson" wrote:

Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on March 28th, 2007


Matt Lee <MattLee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Perhaps you didn't notice that Lars' reply was to the OP who wants help with
backup. Not a response to your unrelated reply.